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[SJKOO01]

Chap I know has just recently bought himself a Omega 2.5v6.  Wasn't running correct so took it to a local garage he uses, never had a problem with them working on his car before.

However, they diagnose that the main engine ECU isn't playing ball and tell him he needs a new one.

So he goes to he local GM dealer to buy a new one.
and the next day he takes the replacement one back to the garage and tells them don't throw the old one away, as the dealer needs to decode/download the old one of its software and upload it to the new one....

.... err... too late, we alreay have and the rubbish has been empted altogether they say  !.

As you can imagine, as well as going mad at them, he now has a has a car that he cant use.

Anyone know if there's a way to get a basic running software set-up loaded onto the ECU and if a Tech 2 could sort it out ??.

I told he should of come to me for advice and I could of helped him by asking the question on here first, before he let the garage even have it !!.

As the local dealer told him that they need the old one, is this the truth or a myth and just a way to extract some stupid amount of money out of someone?  :-?

[o-meg-a]

 say its completely up to the garage that threw away the one bit that was needed to pay for and sort it out.
Next best thing is to buy a complete ecu and matching immobiliser fob etc to replace the old one so you wont need anything coded.

The garage has a responsibility to soak up all additional costs that its "mishap" has caused.
Tell them he'll take them to court if they refuse.

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, it's the garage's problem. Probably was mis-diagnosed anyway as I can't recall anyone ever having a V6 ECU fail. Fancy throwing it before even ensuring a new one is available.

However, Best course of action from now would be to tow the car away from them and don't let them touch it again, then get a 2nd hand ECU with transponder chips and immobiliser from a breaker in the parts for sale section.

As I said, they very rarely fail, so 2nd hand is a much more sensible option than new.

Kevin

[o-meg-a]

Yep, it's the garage's problem. Probably was mis-diagnosed anyway as I can't recall anyone ever having a V6 ECU fail. Fancy throwing it before even ensuring a new one is available.

However, Best course of action from now would be to tow the car away from them and don't let them touch it again, then get a 2nd hand ECU with transponder chips and immobiliser from a breaker in the parts for sale section.

As I said, they very rarely fail, so 2nd hand is a much more sensible option than new.

Kevin

Exactly.

[TheBoy]

It would be funny if it wasn't true.

Fauty ECU is unlikely, but to then bin it.

To be honest, I wouldn't let them touch it, get them to pay for recovery elsewhere.

[Ken T]

This is happening more and more, garages not knowing what is wrong so they pick something, usually the most expensive bit. When my Mig died a couple of years ago, the main dewsbury dealer, evans halshaw said it was the ECU and wanted a lot to replace it. Turned out it was the key transponder putting it into security mode and stopping sparks.

And as for halfords........

Ken

[Marks DTM Calib]

Pay nothing, remove the car and take the new ECU back as it is nothing more than a door stop.

Then get an ECU/Immobiliser setup with transponder chips and idealy the security pass to fit.

Then find and fix the REAL fault.

Simples.

In all the years of this forum (and others) we have NEVER had a 2.5/3.0 ECU fail and we have seen more Omegas than any dealer let alone independent 

[Ken T]

Pay nothing, remove the car and take the new ECU back as it is nothing more than a door stop.

Then get an ECU/Immobiliser setup with transponder chips and idealy the security pass to fit.

Then find and fix the REAL fault.

Simples.

In all the years of this forum (and others) we have NEVER had a 2.5/3.0 ECU fail and we have seen more Omegas than any dealer let alone independent 

And if you can, get the reg and VIN of the doner car, makes getting a car pass a lot easier.

Ken

[Andy B]

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In all the years of this forum (and others) we have NEVER had a 2.5/3.0 ECU fail and we have seen more Omegas than any dealer let alone independent 

I agree, but I told a bloke at work the same re his Astra G when a local garage had diagnosed a duff ECU. In the end it turned out that it was a duff ECU.  :-? :-?

[TheBoy]

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In all the years of this forum (and others) we have NEVER had a 2.5/3.0 ECU fail and we have seen more Omegas than any dealer let alone independent 

I agree, but I told a bloke at work the same re his Astra G when a local garage had diagnosed a duff ECU. In the end it turned out that it was a duff ECU.  :-? :-?

Astra-G was never fitted with the Bosch Motronic 2.8.1/3 ECU though

[o-meg-a]

or was it!! lol

[Andy B]

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Astra-G was never fitted with the Bosch Motronic 2.8.1/3 ECU though

True!  and apparently Astra G's ECUs do fail.

[Marks DTM Calib]

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In all the years of this forum (and others) we have NEVER had a 2.5/3.0 ECU fail and we have seen more Omegas than any dealer let alone independent 

I agree, but I told a bloke at work the same re his Astra G when a local garage had diagnosed a duff ECU. In the end it turned out that it was a duff ECU.  :-? :-?

Z16XE can suffer an issue (Simtec I think), £300 to get them repaired, the ignition coil driver fails on them

[TheBoy]

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Astra-G was never fitted with the Bosch Motronic 2.8.1/3 ECU though

True!  and apparently Astra G's ECUs do fail.

I've heard of faults on the Siemens ones

[TheBoy]

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In all the years of this forum (and others) we have NEVER had a 2.5/3.0 ECU fail and we have seen more Omegas than any dealer let alone independent 

I agree, but I told a bloke at work the same re his Astra G when a local garage had diagnosed a duff ECU. In the end it turned out that it was a duff ECU.  :-? :-?

Z16XE can suffer an issue (Simtec I think), £300 to get them repaired, the ignition coil driver fails on them

LOL, I just said likewise