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[MikeDundee]

i still have a couple of 360 games not even played yet had for a couple of months, is Halo 3 out now then on 360?

[theolodian]

i still have a couple of 360 games not even played yet had for a couple of months, is Halo 3 out now then on 360?

I heard this fall, in time for Xmas.

[TheBoy]

i still have a couple of 360 games not even played yet had for a couple of months, is Halo 3 out now then on 360?

I believe planned for late August release...

[Martin_1962]

BluRay is currently winning - but Toshiba are selling more HDDVD players that the big boys selling BR decks, but they conveniantly forget the PS3 - which is the best selling hires disc player

[Markie]

had my ps3 since launch - dont really use it - but then its for junior.....

But Gran Turismo is the one i have ben waiting for....

unbeatable

[x25xe]

sony dropping the price to compete and if blue ray does not do well compared to hd dvd,sony stand to loose millions of pounds/dollars :(it's the old betamax(sony) vs vhs(phillips) all over again

Slightly off topic and I apologise

The VCR format war was Sony with Betamax, Phillips with V2000 and JVC with VHS.  In order of quality V2000 was best (with the cassette you could turn over) followed closely by Betamax and, some way down the line, was VHS with the worst quality.

As V2000 never took off Betamax was the best quality home VCR available at the time.  Betamax lost the war as we all know and we had to wait for Super VHS before the quality of VHS improved.

With DVD recorders being priced lower and lower, video cassette is now becoming out of date.  Still use my three Panasonic machines though.

[Martin_1962]

sony dropping the price to compete and if blue ray does not do well compared to hd dvd,sony stand to loose millions of pounds/dollars :(it's the old betamax(sony) vs vhs(phillips) all over again

Slightly off topic and I apologise

The VCR format war was Sony with Betamax, Phillips with V2000 and JVC with VHS.  In order of quality V2000 was best (with the cassette you could turn over) followed closely by Betamax and, some way down the line, was VHS with the worst quality.

As V2000 never took off Betamax was the best quality home VCR available at the time.  Betamax lost the war as we all know and we had to wait for Super VHS before the quality of VHS improved.

With DVD recorders being priced lower and lower, video cassette is now becoming out of date.  Still use my three Panasonic machines though.

I always thought for picture wuality Beta was best, well it had the fastest recording speed due to a larger head diameter.

62 for noddy
65 for V2000
74.5 for Beta

Found this while searching for the diameters and formats

http://www.techno-science.net/?onglet=glossaire&definition=7371

[Martin_1962]

Oh and bandwidth 2.4 was listed for Vhs - I know that Beta at worst was 2.5 or 2.6 with good quality Sonys (F1 C9 HF100) hitting high 2s and Super Beta getting into the 3s

I have done the testcard recording test and you can definately see the difference between formats.

In the little test I did

Worst to best

Panacronic Vhs
Sanyo VTC6500
Sony SL-F1
Sony SL-HF950

At a later date I head to head compared a SVHS against the 950 and the results were to say it were odd. Due to paper figures you would assume with its higher resolution SVHS would be a lot better, but surprisingly it was not. Yes there was a bit more detail but not that much more, however the colours were in comparison terrible, they were like someone had taken a line drawing and water coloured over the top, low colour detail and not perfectly registered, due to the better colour resolution Super Beta held up better and was actually better for editing with.

Best home tape format for SDTV is DV!

I have recorded DTTV onto DV quite happily

[TheBoy]

fRom what i recall, my mums b&o v2000 was far better quality than anything else that my schoolmats had. too long ago to be certain though....


sorry for poor typing, type to do this on a very rough train

[Lordmpl]

PGR3 on 360 is quite good - well the downloaded demo is, I don't own any 360 games as I do not play games on it.

So what do you use it for?

I still have an original Xbox with XBMC on it, i use it for DivX movies and as Music centre, have it on the Wireless system, so ican get on the internet with it too, Have stuck a 320gb hard disk in it, and a 320gb external on the laptop with all my films and albums on it, cant beat it.

Does Xbox 360 do something similar, been watching, will emigrate to it if it does.

Thanks, Mark.  

[cbx550bertie]

still got my ps1 that a mate gave me a few years back he then went out an bought me a ps2 for my 30th  still love playing moh on it.. an ive just seen the new moh airborne but its only gonna be available on ps3 still if any of you guys are interested i`m more than willing to let my miggy be a test bed an ave a ps3 fitted to her?

[TheBoy]

PGR3 on 360 is quite good - well the downloaded demo is, I don't own any 360 games as I do not play games on it.

So what do you use it for?

I still have an original Xbox with XBMC on it, i use it for DivX movies and as Music centre, have it on the Wireless system, so ican get on the internet with it too, Have stuck a 320gb hard disk in it, and a 320gb external on the laptop with all my films and albums on it, cant beat it.

Does Xbox 360 do something similar, been watching, will emigrate to it if it does.

Thanks, Mark.  

never seen xbmc for 360, never that impressed myself with xbmc. i use as mce extender, so can watch live tv, recorded tv, pics,  mp3, xvids etc from media center....

[x25xe]

Oh and bandwidth 2.4 was listed for Vhs - I know that Beta at worst was 2.5 or 2.6 with good quality Sonys (F1 C9 HF100) hitting high 2s and Super Beta getting into the 3s

I have done the testcard recording test and you can definately see the difference between formats.

In the little test I did

Worst to best

Panacronic Vhs
Sanyo VTC6500
Sony SL-F1
Sony SL-HF950

At a later date I head to head compared a SVHS against the 950 and the results were to say it were odd. Due to paper figures you would assume with its higher resolution SVHS would be a lot better, but surprisingly it was not. Yes there was a bit more detail but not that much more, however the colours were in comparison terrible, they were like someone had taken a line drawing and water coloured over the top, low colour detail and not perfectly registered, due to the better colour resolution Super Beta held up better and was actually better for editing with.

Best home tape format for SDTV is DV!

I have recorded DTTV onto DV quite happily

Panacronic!  Nice.

Very interesting info there Martin and I am not surprised about your findings with SVHS.  I clearly remember my disappointment when I got a SVHS deck - although it is a Panacronic so maybe that's why?

I would suspect that the b&o would have been better than what your school mates had - hopefully the rough train journey will be over soon.  Should have taken the MV6!

[Lordmpl]

So to clear things up.....

MCE Extender is built into xbox 360, yes???

Can it be used on more than one tv??? or just the one the xbox is plugged into??

I know in the us the is a box you can get to go into tv, but not here i dont think cos of pal/ntsc.

Does it work with Vista OK, or is it xp Media Centre??

Thanks, Mark.  

[Martin_1962]

The best Vhs decks were from Matsushita (JVC & Panasonic), Beta best was Sony, the other companies basically didn't make as good VCRs as these 3 of their formats.

However if you want a VCR to survive a nuclear winter a Sanyo Beta is a good bet!

Funny though that best were the inventors.