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Re: I'm off to get a PS3 then....
« Reply #30 on: 13 July 2007, 13:07:05 »
A mate of mine had a Sony VCR which he was REALLY proud of, until I asked him about frame accurate edits.  The Sony was never the same amount of frames on assembly editing whereas all of my Panasonic machines are.  Machine 1 roll back three frames, machine 2 is 4 frames and machine 3 is 3 frames.

I did not realise that Matsushita was part of JVC though.
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« Reply #31 on: 13 July 2007, 13:17:10 »
the V2000 format was clever, they mounted the heads on piezos so the heads could dynamically track the video stripe. This meant excellent playback even at slow and fast speeds, forward and reverse. And by working out relative reel speeds it could tell you how much time was left on the tape. I still have my Grundig V2000, it was so far ahead of the current VHS decks at the time, yet like a lot of good ideas it died. Life seems to be like that. Mind you I also thought the Atari ST was great !!! ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #32 on: 13 July 2007, 13:26:16 »
just seen on the news that PS3 will not be reduced in price in the uk, it'll stay at £425

not impressed
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« Reply #33 on: 13 July 2007, 15:20:37 »
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A mate of mine had a Sony VCR which he was REALLY proud of, until I asked him about frame accurate edits.  The Sony was never the same amount of frames on assembly editing whereas all of my Panasonic machines are.  Machine 1 roll back three frames, machine 2 is 4 frames and machine 3 is 3 frames.

I did not realise that Matsushita was part of JVC though.

The 950 allowed frame accurate editing, the edit masters are still quite good too!

I still need to lend you a DVD!!!!
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« Reply #34 on: 13 July 2007, 15:52:11 »
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the V2000 format was clever, they mounted the heads on piezos so the heads could dynamically track the video stripe. This meant excellent playback even at slow and fast speeds, forward and reverse. And by working out relative reel speeds it could tell you how much time was left on the tape. I still have my Grundig V2000, it was so far ahead of the current VHS decks at the time, yet like a lot of good ideas it died. Life seems to be like that. Mind you I also thought the Atari ST was great !!! ;D ;D ;D

All this just goes to show that consumers are not always right.  I had forgotton about the freeze and search facilities.  Another great invention that should have had a great deal more success is the minidisk.
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« Reply #35 on: 13 July 2007, 15:56:27 »
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A mate of mine had a Sony VCR which he was REALLY proud of, until I asked him about frame accurate edits.  The Sony was never the same amount of frames on assembly editing whereas all of my Panasonic machines are.  Machine 1 roll back three frames, machine 2 is 4 frames and machine 3 is 3 frames.

I did not realise that Matsushita was part of JVC though.

The 950 allowed frame accurate editing, the edit masters are still quite good too!

I still need to lend you a DVD!!!!

Oh yes, that had slipped my mind!  It will be nice to see how others edit - plus I like trains as well.  At present working on a school journey video and manually cleaning the capstan of my VX2000E.  Found a very good guide here http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/trouble/index.html go to johns guide to camera cleaning for the pics.  I hope that this will work for my camera which has exactly the same symptoms at present.  May be of use to you?
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« Reply #36 on: 13 July 2007, 16:42:31 »
My Mini DV camera is OK a little bashed but I have used it a lot.

My HVC400P has a knackered tube :( But I have owned it for over 20 years.

I will send a Beta sourced PC edited disc.
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« Reply #37 on: 13 July 2007, 19:59:08 »
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just seen on the news that PS3 will not be reduced in price in the uk, it'll stay at £425

not impressed

It will be... ;)

Market forces will dictate that.... unless Sony want to be in the wilderness...
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« Reply #38 on: 13 July 2007, 20:07:23 »
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My Mini DV camera is OK a little bashed but I have used it a lot.

My HVC400P has a knackered tube :( But I have owned it for over 20 years.

I will send a Beta sourced PC edited disc.

Great!  Looking forward to it.  Regarding postage, I will put stamps to the value of what it cost you to send in the return envelope.  That way, you will not have incurred any expense.  Alternatively, I will enclose cash - whichever you prefer.  Let me know.

Camera appears to be OK now.  Thank goodness for that as in the middle of an edit!
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« Reply #39 on: 13 July 2007, 21:19:03 »
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just seen on the news that PS3 will not be reduced in price in the uk, it'll stay at £425

not impressed

It will be... ;)

Market forces will dictate that.... unless Sony want to be in the wilderness...

they think that reducing it everywhere else in the world will be enough, its down to less then $500 in the states already
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Re: I'm off to get a PS3 then....
« Reply #40 on: 13 July 2007, 22:23:58 »
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Market forces will dictate that.... unless Sony want to be in the wilderness...

Yeah, make a big hoo haa about reducing price in one market and then another about NOT reducing it in another.  ::)

How stupid to they think their potential customers are?

Plenty of them sitting on their hands (and their toy budgets) now, I reckon.

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Re: I'm off to get a PS3 then....
« Reply #41 on: 14 July 2007, 16:04:18 »
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Market forces will dictate that.... unless Sony want to be in the wilderness...

Yeah, make a big hoo haa about reducing price in one market and then another about NOT reducing it in another.  ::)

How stupid to they think their potential customers are?

Plenty of them sitting on their hands (and their toy budgets) now, I reckon.

Kevin
You are failing to appreciate the contempt that Sony UK treats its customers with....   ....the trade news says no UK price cut planned.  However, as LB66 says, they need to stimulate sales somehow, and currently it won't be via the games.
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« Reply #42 on: 14 July 2007, 18:06:37 »
I stand by what I say, a price cut at the beginning of Quarter 4. They have to move a lot of units in the run up to Christmas or they will be dead in the water.

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« Reply #43 on: 14 July 2007, 18:17:15 »
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I stand by what I say, a price cut at the beginning of Quarter 4. They have to move a lot of units in the run up to Christmas or they will be dead in the water.

The rumour is that they are hoping to sell a lot of PS3 in the run up to christmas on the back of games like GT4 at the current price.  Personally, I think they are wrong, and they need to sell it at (even more of?) a loss.

BTW, the US price cuts may not be what it initially seems. They have released one with a bigger drive at the original price, and it seems to be unclear whether the smaller disk one (that reduced in price) will still be marketed for long (or the cynical view I heard was reduce its supply, so parents see the lower price but struggle to obtain, so buy more expensive one after promising to little Johnny)...
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« Reply #44 on: 14 July 2007, 18:30:52 »
Yes I have heard about the bigger drive being released but if they try that particular routine they may find their market share dropping even further.

The hope has been that sales will pick up in quarter 4 with the run up to christmas.

From what I gather, the markers are not good. The retailers have some interesting deals in place with Microsoft for the run up to crimbo (some excellent promo packages) which means the X Box 360 price will not reduce noticeably, but you will get more for your money.

Sony, on the other hand have been less certain of their strategy for the rest of the year....

Nintendo, on the other hand, are laughing! They just have to put the units in the shops and away they go!  
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