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[feeutfo]

I would rather hit something in a big old solid tank like an Omega than the latest little eurohatch was has been given a 5 star rating.

Yep. NCAP ratings are deceptive. Bigger is always better. I'd sooner be in a 1.7 tonne barge with a rating of 4 than a sit-up-and-beg FWD toilet cubicle on wheels with a 5 star rating.

Isn't there something about being able to get the doors open after an accident. Going by the shape of the door shuts on omega I guess it qualifies, but wondered where is that on the ncap scale? Low down I guess?

[feeutfo]

Also, sadly there have been several non fault incidents in my omegas. All minor. Mostly BMW's driving into what ever they like. Pre face lift was unmarked after a 7 series decided he owned my lane as well. Big hole torn in BMW bumper, and to this day I never found a single mark on mine.

I don't think that a plus for the omega. More that BMW bumpers are made of paper mashe.

Another side swipe left rubber all up the drivers door. Tarnished the rubbing strip. New bumper on the 5 series.

Rear ended by a micra. New exhaust needed, it was rusted through anyway, and a bumper re spray.

Tough as old boots generally it seems to me. Although the doors ding too easily IMO, but then again all cars seem the same.

[Kevin Wood]

Rear ended by a micra. New exhaust needed, it was rusted through anyway, and a bumper re spray.

Been there. My towbar made a heat hole in the front bumper, went in, through the radiator, and pulled out all the micra's power steering pipework through the same hole.

The back end of the Micra had a Range Rover to contend with, so that didn't do so well either.

[Shackeng]

I did reverse into a brand new VW Passat about 3 years ago in mine, I got out.VW had smashed headlight, cracked/split bumper and a bent bonnet, damage? £2.5k's worth!

Damage to mine? Hairline crack in bumper 

I have a feeling that the front of cars have to be 'crumple' zones, but maybe not the rears? Anyone know different?

[dbug]

Look at the state of it:

Nothing a bit of glass matting and Isopon can't fix 

[cem_devecioglu]

Kate , you need to worry about your blood vessels conditions than your cars strength... statistically ,in many accidents which ends up with death , the passenger died because of a cracked vessel because of large g force applied (especially to brain and heart) during the crash..

[Kate]

Kate , you need to worry about your blood vessels conditions than your cars strength... statistically ,in many accidents which ends up with death , the passenger died because of a cracked vessel because of large g force applied (especially to brain and heart) during the crash..

I think my blood vessels are ok as I had detailed blood tests recently.

It was this sort of thing I want to avoid.  There are loads of dangerous drivers around here.

[cem_devecioglu]

Kate , you need to worry about your blood vessels conditions than your cars strength... statistically ,in many accidents which ends up with death , the passenger died because of a cracked vessel because of large g force applied (especially to brain and heart) during the crash..

I think my blood vessels are ok as I had detailed blood tests recently.

It was this sort of thing I want to avoid.  There are loads of dangerous drivers around here.

if you want real safety you need to drive an armoured  battle tank

sorry but the lorries and big trucks are extremely dangerous .. and even big cars are not safe enough..

[aaronjb]

Kate , you need to worry about your blood vessels conditions than your cars strength... statistically ,in many accidents which ends up with death , the passenger died because of a cracked vessel because of large g force applied (especially to brain and heart) during the crash..

I think my blood vessels are ok as I had detailed blood tests recently.

It was this sort of thing I want to avoid.  There are loads of dangerous drivers around here.

Blood tests won't help with what Cem is discussing

What he means is - if you decelerate a [human] body from speed at a fast enough rate, the sudden stop can cause blood vessels (arteries, veins etc) to rupture or be completely separated from the heart causing more or less instant death.

That's why we have crumple zones - the more of the car that deforms/comes flying off around the passenger cell in an accident, the better - each bit of bent/crumpled/missing metal is a piece that absorbed some of the energy of the impact and allowed the vehicle to slow down more gently, saving the occupants life..


A little like the old adage - it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

[cem_devecioglu]

thanks Aaronjb.. thats what I meant

[aaronjb]

thanks Aaronjb.. thats what I meant

 

I can't remember, for the life of me, what the medical term is for the aorta becoming detached.. aortic dissection? Anyway.. gruesome subject - enough of that, I reckon or Kate will never drive again!

[cem_devecioglu]

thanks Aaronjb.. thats what I meant

 

I can't remember, for the life of me, what the medical term is for the aorta becoming detached.. aortic dissection? Anyway.. gruesome subject - enough of that, I reckon or Kate will never drive again!

 

[Kate]

Kate , you need to worry about your blood vessels conditions than your cars strength... statistically ,in many accidents which ends up with death , the passenger died because of a cracked vessel because of large g force applied (especially to brain and heart) during the crash..

I think my blood vessels are ok as I had detailed blood tests recently.

It was this sort of thing I want to avoid.  There are loads of dangerous drivers around here.

Blood tests won't help with what Cem is discussing

What he means is - if you decelerate a [human] body from speed at a fast enough rate, the sudden stop can cause blood vessels (arteries, veins etc) to rupture or be completely separated from the heart causing more or less instant death.

That's why we have crumple zones - the more of the car that deforms/comes flying off around the passenger cell in an accident, the better - each bit of bent/crumpled/missing metal is a piece that absorbed some of the energy of the impact and allowed the vehicle to slow down more gently, saving the occupants life..


A little like the old adage - it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

 

Oh I see what you mean.  It's that horrible website that gets you worried. All those accident pictures and stuff. Yuk. Has anyone else looked at it? (charonboat.com)

I know it's real life but it shocked me quite a bit.

[hotel21]

Haven't looked at the website but seen enough real ones over the years.

As others have said, aint no substitute for tonnage! (well, sort of...)

Omega is a large old tank and, if pitted against some of the more modern creations of automobile, I think it will still fare quite well, age and tinworm also included - within reason!   

Crumple zones, passenger safety cell and airbags/side airbags.  Its quite a fair spec, even for its age.

[Entwood]

The idiots on R2 today were having a field day ... they were comparing the G-Wiz to "other cars" ... bit like comparing apples with pineapples....  both are fruit I suppose..

The G-wiz is NOT a car .. its fancy name is a quadricycle .. and as such it is HIGHLY restricted in weight and power and does not have ant need to reach car safety standards.

Would you expect a pushbike or a motorbike to have the same safety systems as a car Course not .. and if a push bike gets hit by a car the bike loses .... badly .. as did the G-wiz

Pushbikes, motorbikes, invalid cars, 3-wheelers all lose when hit by a car .. add G-wiz to that list but for gods sake stop trying to make out the g-wiz is inherently dangerous ..

Its ugly, horrible, useless and supposed to be "green" - but isn't .... but it is NOT "dangerous" any more than a pushbike is.