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[Golfbuddy]

The recent smoking ban?

I don't really mean the debate as to whether or not smoking is a good thing but to pass a law that criminalises smoking in the workplace.

When you look at recent posts where people have had their property and privicy invaded and we know what would happen even if the scumbags were caught, absolutely nothing. But, I hear that people have already been fined for smoking  

Next weeks debate: Fox hunting

[Andy B]

The recent smoking ban?

I don't really mean the debate as to whether or not smoking is a good thing but to pass a law that criminalises smoking in the workplace.

When you look at recent posts where people have had their property and privicy invaded and we know what would happen even if the scumbags were caught, absolutely nothing. But, I hear that people have already been fined for smoking  

Next weeks debate: Fox hunting

A local landlord has apparently been warned about smoking in his home after hours. His home happpens to be his pub!
On the TV this evening - The One Show - The skipper of HMS Tireless was on. Smoking is also banned on a bloody submarine. I know it's a work place but it's also the home of the smokers. It all worked quite satisfactorily(sp? :-/) before when just four at a time were allowed to smoke in the designated place. After all it's a bit bloody difficult to go outside for a quick smoke when you're submerged!!! Bloody bureaucratic interfering government! And NO I don't smoke anymore

[luv_my_mv6]

I see it as the govt have shot themselves in the foot, all the pub goers arnt too bothered at the mo, but wait till its throwing down with rain, windy and cold.... people will avoid pubs and clubs - losing the gove valuable alcohol tax money, and them that do give up smoking, well the govt will lose tobacco tax money, result? I can see a new tax being introduced to make up the losses  

 I havent heard of anyone being fined yet, but whats the world coming to if someone calls the police cos someone is smoking in public areas? by the time the cops get there, the fag will be smoked and no evidence to convict unless big brother is watching waste of police time and resources, and if camera evidence is used to press a charge, im sure it has to be via the courts.... more money and public service time wasted. The government are living in dream world.

 Sorry, thats probably way off the question, but theres my 10p worth  

[Markie]

Controversial me time ....

Completely agree with it - its frankly not enough. Smoking should be banned anywhere public.

You will see in time that the problem of smoking moves somewhere else with this new legislation - remember we have had this for a year in Scotland, and I CANT STAND weaving my way in and out and in and out to and from work in the city with all these office workers standing all over the pavement polluting the enviroment on mass because they cant smoke inside etc etc.

The ban should move to streets next....

Well you did ask  

[CaptainZok]

Its more of the same nanny state 'dangle berries' isn't it. FFS I'm a big boy now I can decide whether I wish to smoke or not. Sure a designated place I can tolerate. It's no different to when I worked with flammable chemicals and could only smoke in certain bits of the factory but now a driver can't even smoke in his cab even if he's driving a non stop four and a half hour shift.... And breathe.
Rant over.

[luv_my_mv6]

Does it count also, that if you have a gas engineer or tv repair man in your house, that becomes a place of work for him, we cant smoke?

[JamesV6CDX]

Controversial me time ....

Completely agree with it - its frankly not enough. Smoking should be banned anywhere public.

You will see in time that the problem of smoking moves somewhere else with this new legislation - remember we have had this for a year in Scotland, and I CANT STAND weaving my way in and out and in and out to and from work in the city with all these office workers standing all over the pavement polluting the enviroment on mass because they cant smoke inside etc etc.

The ban should move to streets next....

Well you did ask  

Agreed

[Golfbuddy]

Does it count also, that if you have a gas engineer or tv repair man in your house, that becomes a place of work for him, we cant smoke?

I believe that Bristol City Council have told their tenants that they are not allowed to smoke in their house if a council workman is coming around to do some work

[JamesV6CDX]

Does it count also, that if you have a gas engineer or tv repair man in your house, that becomes a place of work for him, we cant smoke?

I believe that Bristol City Council have told their tenants that they are not allowed to smoke in their house is a council workman is coming around to do some work

Quite right too...

[TheBoy]

I should start by saying I am a non smoker, and as such, think being able to go out in a smoke free environment is great.

However, I think the recent ban is wrong, and the thin end of the wedge. Smokers have be banned from pubs, drinkers will be next.  In fact, there have been a couple of moves by politians lately to start making drinking beer socially unacceptable....

[JamesV6CDX]

I should start by saying I am a non smoker, and as such, think being able to go out in a smoke free environment is great.

However, I think the recent ban is wrong, and the thin end of the wedge. Smokers have be banned from pubs, drinkers will be next.  In fact, there have been a couple of moves by politians lately to start making drinking beer socially unacceptable....

Sod the UK, let's all go live in Amsterdam!!

[TheBoy]

I should start by saying I am a non smoker, and as such, think being able to go out in a smoke free environment is great.

However, I think the recent ban is wrong, and the thin end of the wedge. Smokers have be banned from pubs, drinkers will be next.  In fact, there have been a couple of moves by politians lately to start making drinking beer socially unacceptable....

Sod the UK, let's all go live in Amsterdam!!

I'd be dead in a year....

[JamesV6CDX]

I should start by saying I am a non smoker, and as such, think being able to go out in a smoke free environment is great.

However, I think the recent ban is wrong, and the thin end of the wedge. Smokers have be banned from pubs, drinkers will be next.  In fact, there have been a couple of moves by politians lately to start making drinking beer socially unacceptable....

Sod the UK, let's all go live in Amsterdam!!

I'd be dead in a year....

Caused by what, dare I ask!!!

[CaptainZok]

First they came for the Socialists, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left
to speak up for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller

Like TB says the thin end of the wedge.

[Golfbuddy]

First they came for the Socialists, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left
to speak up for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller

Like TB says the thin end of the wedge.

Now, that's profound. As I said at the start, I'm not really that interested in the debate as to whether or not smoking is a good thing although I am sure most people, me included, have fairly strong views on that. I am far more interested in the debate as to whether or not there is any justification for criminalising it.