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[miggy]

Its about time our boys came home from Iraq, come on Brown get it sorted, dont be a puppet Muppet to Bush, like Blaire was.

Get our boys home.


 

[TheBoy]

Not a debate I am going to get drawn in to, but remember that these countries need security and stability, and they cannot do this alone.  The International community need to provide resources and help to provide this.

I know the popularist media, and even the dumbed-down bbc often promote such ideas and 'Bring our Boys Back' campaigns, but the fact remains, International teams need to stay there - a fact that the media never provide an answer to.

[miggy]

Not a debate I am going to get drawn in to, but remember that these countries need security and stability, and they cannot do this alone.  The International community need to provide resources and help to provide this.

I know the popularist media, and even the dumbed-down bbc often promote such ideas and 'Bring our Boys Back' campaigns, but the fact remains, International teams need to stay there - a fact that the media never provide an answer to.

Agree with some of it TB but being an ex vet of the Falklands in 1982, I speak from experience of men dying, yes we need security forces out there but there are far too many of our troops commited to that region, other united nations members need to commit more, not always soft touch Britian, we know it was a campaign to rid the dictator but also it was a very good excuse for America to look after their oil supplies, this campaign is going to turn into another Vietnam, with our troops on the end of it, the Falklands was a battle to protect our last bit of the empire, the war in the east is no longer a peace keeping force, we are now there as the enemy, let the 2 goverments sort out Iraq to get their own goverment and own peace keepers in place.
Our boys are dying, get them home asap IMO.
I am still actively involved with my regiment and during the recent floods the goverment could not commit more troops to help as there was far too many commited in the east..

Only my opinion, everyone has the right to that, but I do speak from experience.

   

[Baron Von Spongebob]

Not a debate I am going to get drawn in to, but remember that these countries need security and stability, and they cannot do this alone.  The International community need to provide resources and help to provide this.

I know the popularist media, and even the dumbed-down bbc often promote such ideas and 'Bring our Boys Back' campaigns, but the fact remains, International teams need to stay there - a fact that the media never provide an answer to.

Agree with some of it TB but being an ex vet of the Falklands in 1982, I speak from experience of men dying, yes we need security forces out there but there are far too many of our troops commited to that region, other united nations members need to commit more, not always soft touch Britian, we know it was a campaign to rid the dictator but also it was a very good excuse for America to look after their oil supplies, this campaign is going to turn into another Vietnam, with our troops on the end of it, the Falklands was a battle to protect our last bit of the empire, the war in the east is no longer a peace keeping force,  ;we are now there as the enemy let the 2 goverments sort out Iraq to get their own goverment and own peace keepers in place.Our boys are dying, get them home asap IMO.I am still actively involved with my regiment and during the recent floods the goverment could not commit more troops to help as there was far too many commited in the east..

Only my opinion, everyone has the right to that, but I do speak from experience.

   

Thats my opinion..

[Tony H]

Totally agree Sir Miggy

[MikeDundee]

Whilst i may agree on folks sentiments/comments on this subject....I doubt very much that public opinion will sway the current government or any for that matter to pull out of their military committments abroad. our troops will be there until the regions are secure, and somehow I think this is still a long way off. Lets not forget the oil in Iraq.

That aside and this suppossedley being a democtratic society, that being said should the government not let the people of this country decide through voting, whether to withdraw or let troops remain abroad....Chance would be a fine thing.............Theres not much democracy about this country when things are imposed upon us without letting the public decide, thats where things really need to change is to let the public decide through voting before anything is imposed....Yes I am a smoker    

[miggy]

Whilst i may agree on folks sentiments/comments on this subject....I doubt very much that public opinion will sway the current government or any for that matter to pull out of their military committments abroad. our troops will be there until the regions are secure, and somehow I think this is still a long way off. Lets not forget the oil in Iraq.

That aside and this suppossedley being a democtratic society, that being said should the government not let the people of this country decide through voting, whether to withdraw or let troops remain abroad....Chance would be a fine thing.............Theres not much democracy about this country when things are imposed upon us without letting the public decide, thats where things really need to change is to let the public decide through voting before anything is imposed....Yes I am a smoker    

Me too, by the way, that car looks better each time I see it.

 

[miggy]

Whilst i may agree on folks sentiments/comments on this subject....I doubt very much that public opinion will sway the current government or any for that matter to pull out of their military committments abroad. our troops will be there until the regions are secure, and somehow I think this is still a long way off. Lets not forget the oil in Iraq.

That aside and this suppossedley being a democtratic society, that being said should the government not let the people of this country decide through voting, whether to withdraw or let troops remain abroad....Chance would be a fine thing.............Theres not much democracy about this country when things are imposed upon us without letting the public decide, thats where things really need to change is to let the public decide through voting before anything is imposed....Yes I am a smoker    

Me too, by the way, that car looks better each time I see it.

 

If ever you feel the need to rid your self of that irmscher kit, give me a shout Mike, Like that will ever happen, but you never know, they could even allow smoking in pubs again.

 

[MikeDundee]

Whilst i may agree on folks sentiments/comments on this subject....I doubt very much that public opinion will sway the current government or any for that matter to pull out of their military committments abroad. our troops will be there until the regions are secure, and somehow I think this is still a long way off. Lets not forget the oil in Iraq.

That aside and this suppossedley being a democtratic society, that being said should the government not let the people of this country decide through voting, whether to withdraw or let troops remain abroad....Chance would be a fine thing.............Theres not much democracy about this country when things are imposed upon us without letting the public decide, thats where things really need to change is to let the public decide through voting before anything is imposed....Yes I am a smoker    

Me too, by the way, that car looks better each time I see it.

 

If ever you feel the need to rid your self of that irmscher kit, give me a shout Mike, Like that will ever happen, but you never know, they could even allow smoking in pubs again.

 

Well we can always dream ....alternative is to find someone who can remake from the originals, however may be some copyright issues there?