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Ban for speeding question
« on: 07 August 2007, 19:13:38 »

We were talking in work today about the scenario of a person driving down a road with a 50 mph limit at a constant speed of 54 mph, going through four speed cameras, would he/she accumulate twelve points and get a ban or would it only count as one offence because the speed of the car didn't drop below the limit? :-/  
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #1 on: 07 August 2007, 19:18:03 »

Go to court and get off all 4 because AFAIK above 30mph you are allowed 10% error in your speedo, so you can say i was only doing 50 mph but the cameras still flashed me ;D
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« Reply #2 on: 07 August 2007, 19:28:01 »

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We were talking in work today about the scenario of a person driving down a road with a 50 mph limit at a constant speed of 54 mph, going through four speed cameras, would he/she accumulate twelve points and get a ban or would it only count as one offence because the speed of the car didn't drop below the limit? :-/  

The way I thought was, each camera would be a separate offence,

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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #3 on: 07 August 2007, 20:20:45 »

i think this is a reason why they wouldnt put 4 speed cameras along one stretch of road that isnt a motorway

i dont think 54 would trigger a 50 camera but dont take my word for it, and i think any camera image taken is reviewed by human eyes before being sent out to a possible "offender"

4 seperate locations would cause 12 points if the speed is great enough to be considered an offence
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #4 on: 07 August 2007, 20:24:11 »

The 50/54 mph and 10% is a bit of a red herring, in my opinion.

All speedo's (not the swimming attire I wore as a yoof, I must stress!) must by law be accurate to within 10% of true speed.  Virtually by default, all speedos over guestimate your speed so as to stroke the ego of the driver and the car manufacturer.  The bar room boaster would rather say he was showing an indicated 150 rather than an actual 135 or indeed the understimated 120!!  

Accepting that the 50/54 mph should perhaps be 50/64 mph, then each 'offence' is held on its own merits and thus each will be worth 3 points and a minimum of £60 each so, yes, in theory, the driver could well be banned before he got to the end of the street.......

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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #5 on: 07 August 2007, 20:43:14 »

...if there were 4 cameras in that street!
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #6 on: 07 August 2007, 21:46:23 »

i was under the impression that if you didnt slow down between cameras then it was still one offence?
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #7 on: 07 August 2007, 21:53:47 »

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Go to court and get off all 4 because AFAIK above 30mph you are allowed 10% error in your speedo, so you can say i was only doing 50 mph but the cameras still flashed me ;D

10% + 2 in Staffs... @30mph 35 (in theory) is OK

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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #8 on: 07 August 2007, 22:07:35 »

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i was under the impression that if you didnt slow down between cameras then it was still one offence?

how would you prove it?
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #9 on: 07 August 2007, 22:08:45 »

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i think this is a reason why they wouldnt put 4 speed cameras along one stretch of road that isnt a motorway

i dont think 54 would trigger a 50 camera but dont take my word for it, and i think any camera image taken is reviewed by human eyes before being sent out to a possible "offender"

4 seperate locations would cause 12 points if the speed is great enough to be considered an offence

Can't think of 4 but there are 3 on the A666 coming into Bolton from the M61 and another 2 on the other side going out towards Kearsley since they dropped it to a 50 limit.
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #10 on: 07 August 2007, 22:12:08 »

innocent untill proven guilty?
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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #11 on: 07 August 2007, 22:15:15 »

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The 50/54 mph and 10% is a bit of a red herring, in my opinion.

All speedo's (not the swimming attire I wore as a yoof, I must stress!) must by law be accurate to within 10% of true speed.  Virtually by default, all speedos over guestimate your speed so as to stroke the ego of the driver and the car manufacturer.  The bar room boaster would rather say he was showing an indicated 150 rather than an actual 135 or indeed the understimated 120!!  

Accepting that the 50/54 mph should perhaps be 50/64 mph, then each 'offence' is held on its own merits and thus each will be worth 3 points and a minimum of £60 each so, yes, in theory, the driver could well be banned before he got to the end of the street.......

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Cheers For clearing that up :y to clarify some of the other posts, no it wasn't a real situation that I was in, the speed was actual speed not the speed indicated on the speedo and regarding so many speed cameras on one stretch of road, have a drive down the A55 in north Wales or the Preston to Blackpool road :o
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« Reply #12 on: 07 August 2007, 22:39:51 »

Well this has actually happened....some chap not being aware of the speed limit traveled up and down the same road several times each time being caught speeding and yep think he got something like 9 points in one day.


Few months back but that's basically what happened..... ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 07 August 2007, 22:41:47 »

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Well this has actually happened....some chap not being aware of the speed limit traveled up and down the same road several times each time being caught speeding and yep think he got something like 9 points in one day.


Few months back but that's basically what happened..... ;D

Silly moo moo.


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Re: Ban for speeding question
« Reply #14 on: 07 August 2007, 22:43:44 »

if its the one im thinking off it was a weston -super-mare councillor who actually voted for the things and then bleated that it should of been signposted better
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