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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #30 on: 16 September 2006, 16:06:38 »
Fault codes flash out a 12 (3 times), then each fault code (3 times) and then starts again with the 12s etc indiffinately (well until batt goes flat).  2.0 need engine off, 2.5/3.0 can be done with engine on or off.
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #31 on: 16 September 2006, 16:12:29 »
Hi

Ok now we know that it is the camshaft Sensor, is it easy to change, and what sort of cost would i be looking at?

If it is easy to change with not much cursing under the breath, i don't mind having a go at it my self.

Thanks

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #32 on: 16 September 2006, 16:13:57 »
Not sure how much of a job it is on the 4 cylinder engines, but I wouldn't have though too difficult. And there are plenty of 4 cylinder owners here willing to give advice... ;)
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #33 on: 16 September 2006, 16:16:12 »
£31 on tradeclub, £34 trade, or £38 retail (all + VAT) from your dealer...
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #34 on: 16 September 2006, 16:18:58 »
Thanks for the info, it looks like i will visit my opel dealer on Monday to get it. Just as well i have holiday next week  :)

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #35 on: 16 September 2006, 16:23:35 »
Just out of interest, as the engine is a DOHC does that mean that there are 2 cam sensors?

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #36 on: 16 September 2006, 16:51:12 »
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #37 on: 16 September 2006, 16:54:28 »
I should clarify...   ...It is needed to tell ecu which cylinder is on firing stroke (crank will rotate twice between a particular cylinder's firing stroke), so crank sensor on its own can't tell ecu where the engine is in its cylces. So when cam sensor fails, ecu goes to 'limp', turns off sequential injection and fires on firing stroke and intake stroke (which it does anyway), so it can still run. A low rev limit is implemented in limp to protect engine.
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #38 on: 16 September 2006, 17:54:01 »
Thanks for all the info   :)

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #39 on: 16 September 2006, 19:55:00 »
Its easy....remove the spark plug cover, remove the cambelt cover.

Remove the bolt which is in-between the two cam sprockets and pull the sensor up and out from the end of the spark plug area.

Re-fit is reverse of removal
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #40 on: 18 September 2006, 11:14:17 »
Shock Horror, i have just gone out and got the cam sensor :o  it was [ch8364]120.00  approx 80 quid.
And it is now pi55ing down, so i can't go and fit it >:(

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #41 on: 18 September 2006, 11:57:22 »
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Shock Horror, i have just gone out and got the cam sensor :o  it was €120.00  approx 80 quid.
And it is now pi55ing down, so i can't go and fit it >:(

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Was it supplied with a new piece of loom as you may need to cut and solder the new end on, not unless it comes with crimps for crimping the wires together.

Pretty easy job to do imo.

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #42 on: 18 September 2006, 12:23:37 »
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Shock Horror, i have just gone out and got the cam sensor :o  it was €120.00  approx 80 quid.
And it is now pi55ing down, so i can't go and fit it >:(

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HOW MUCH!

£38.35 retail in the UK + VAT so about 80 Euros.
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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #43 on: 18 September 2006, 13:11:10 »
Hi

Yes it does come come with a piece of  loom (with crimps)

That was going to be my next question: why do i have to use the piece of loom? the new sensor i have has a 3 pin socket moulded into it, so i guess that i can just unplug the loom from the old one and plug it into the new one, unless the old one does not have this socket on the end of it, and the cable come directly out of the end of the sensor.

Well it has stopped raining now, so i will get my things together and do the job.

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Re: Stutters like a pig, at 4500 rpm
« Reply #44 on: 18 September 2006, 15:03:34 »
Hi Guys

Ok all done and dusted, it took about 3/4 hour, the only problem i had was the bolt that holds the sensor, was a star headed bolt, so i had to thumble about to find something that fits. But i found something in the end.

I did have to use the new loom, as the plug on the old one is slightly different from the new one.

The only thing that is wrong now, is that the one touch window operation has gone, but i think i saw a FAQ on that subject on this forum.

A big thanks to all that help me on this little problem.

Kind regards

Tony
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