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HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« on: 23 September 2006, 17:05:22 »
Help!  I'm in the middle of doing my cambelt and they gave me the wrong kit.  It has the wrong backing plate for the tensioner.  According to the DVD I can just swap the backing plates, and the rest of the kit is OK?  I can't seem to get the tensioner off of the old backing plate.  Should I just muscle it off?

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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #1 on: 23 September 2006, 17:08:24 »
OK, so I also have to reuse the old bolt and spacer for the lower idler.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #2 on: 23 September 2006, 18:05:48 »
Sorry I can't help, but that's the sort of thing that happen's to me!

I'm sure Mark, RMcB or somebody will be along later to advise.

Don't worry.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #3 on: 23 September 2006, 19:03:41 »
Yep....use the old backing plate.....the tensioner nut is often quite tight to remove but, does come off.

You also need to remark the timing belt with the markings for the later belt kit to.

If you get realy stuck I have a spare backing plate off a new setup....and probably a belt from which the markings can be transfered.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #4 on: 23 September 2006, 20:14:34 »
G*^#%*@**#&(*# bloody *%&*(()$$@# computers!  I just wrote a reply but my login expired while I was writing it, so when I went to post it it was destroyed  >:(

The problem with the old backing plate was the stud that holds the tensioner on.  By the time I got the nut off, several threads from the stud had come with it.  However, I was able to reuse it.  The stud from the new backing plate could not be used on the old backing plate.

The belt seemed to fit fine with the markings?  Maybe if I looked more carefully on the old one, but the markings looked like they had been rubbed off.

It is a bit more than halfway back together now.  Still need to reinstall the intake plenum and the inlet pipes.  Taken a lot longer than I thought, so working somewhat in the dark now.  I am reasonably good with a wrench, but I am also careful.  It has been over 5 hrs so far, with 1 more to go.  One hour was lost due to the wrong parts.  That is not including the 1.5 hrs spent getting set up and flushing the coolant.  My back is KILLING me, so taking a break for a while.  Not going to get any darker.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #5 on: 23 September 2006, 20:36:56 »
Finish in the morning mate. MUCH better to work in daylight and when you are refreshed.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #6 on: 23 September 2006, 20:52:29 »
Sounds like a fun job. Not.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #7 on: 23 September 2006, 21:05:16 »
Just absolutely ensure that the timing marks on the cam sprockets line up perfectly with the timing tool...
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #8 on: 23 September 2006, 23:15:12 »
Done & drove it home.  12hrs  :'(
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #9 on: 24 September 2006, 00:16:15 »
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Done & drove it home.  12hrs  :'(

Well done, glad the nightmare worked out in the end.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #10 on: 24 September 2006, 03:34:07 »
well if it's any consolation, I did mine with the help of a mate - neither of us had done it before - and no DVD either, just the info off here and VxON (the book of lies didn't really help much) - drained as much coolant as possible and changed the water pump too before moving on to the belt and tensioners. Took 9 hours from start to finish, mind you we did take the time to get the timing SPOT ON - worth doing!

Have been driving it ever since (3 months ago) and it receives a regular spanking ... never a problem !!

glad to hear you got there in the end !!
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #11 on: 24 September 2006, 09:47:52 »
Yeah, sounds about the same.  Once it got close to 6hrs the timeline exploded.  Now there had been lunch and dinner, sore back and darkness.  Taking out other activities and the hour lost due to the wrong parts, it was more like 6hrs despite the darkness at the end.  From when I really started on the cam it was 8.5hrs total including breaks.

I did the cam timing 3 times.  Ended up with all of them just inside the right edge of the notches on the timing guage, so probably 1 degree advanced.  If the belt stretches then they'll drop into line, but I doubt it.  The tensioner on the old one was still all the way on the high setting.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #12 on: 24 September 2006, 10:44:18 »
Blimey....thats a long slog....only took 6 hours yesterday to totaly re-build a top end (with cambelt etc) including fiddling with a few other bits on the way (alternator etc).

Well done though, always more rewarding doing it yourself plus you know its been done right.
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #13 on: 24 September 2006, 10:46:04 »
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Blimey....thats a long slog....only took 6 hours yesterday to totaly re-build a top end (with cambelt etc) including fiddling with a few other bits on the way (alternator etc).

Well done though, always more rewarding doing it yourself plus you know its been done right.

6 hours? Slowing down or something Mark ;D
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Re: HELP!  Wrong cambelt kit!
« Reply #14 on: 24 September 2006, 10:47:04 »
It would have been quicker but for the head bolt problem.....i.e. one of the new ones didn't have a washer on it!
« Last Edit: 24 September 2006, 10:47:21 by Mark »
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