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BMW 'designers'
« on: 07 September 2007, 18:33:40 »
Words fail.  I'm left utterly speechless.  What bloody idiot left that designer alone to 'design' the engine should be sacked.


Those following the tractor saga may remember I was debating whether to check the chains or just swap the heads over.

Had a look at the original engine, now in my garage, and couldn't see how the chain cover comes off, even though the ancillaries are already mostly off.

So a quick look on TIS, and it roughly translates to:
Remove sump!  (which pretty much means engine out I think)/
Remove cylinder head (WTF??)
Remove injection pump

(thats in addition to the ancilliaries like removing alternator, PAS pump, water pump, crank pulleys, vacuum generator, viscous, aux belt).


Words cannot describe my current feelings towards BMW and their stupid bloody 'designers'
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #1 on: 07 September 2007, 18:38:03 »
....so what now, can you be bothered with another engine out ?
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« Reply #2 on: 07 September 2007, 18:40:56 »
Well i know it doesnt help......but i spose they thought the chain is never gonna be replaced....so it doesnt matter if its difficult to get to......

Head swap it is then  :y
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #3 on: 07 September 2007, 18:43:37 »
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Well i know it doesnt help......but i spose they thought the chain is never gonna be replaced....so it doesnt matter if its difficult to get to......

Head swap it is then  :y
Surely the chain is a friggin consumable?  Mind you, having read up on it a lot recently, seeing as BMW heads are incredibly prone to cracking, maybe they expect the chain to outlive the head.

Muppets  >:(
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #4 on: 07 September 2007, 19:07:21 »
Take a deep breath & count to 10.
Err maybe 100 or ..............
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« Reply #5 on: 07 September 2007, 19:15:47 »
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Take a deep breath & count to 10.
Err maybe 100 or ..............
I'm counting gallons of petrol required to sort the problem ;D
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #6 on: 07 September 2007, 19:30:01 »
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Take a deep breath & count to 10.
Err maybe 100 or ..............
I'm counting gallons of petrol required to sort the problem ;D

You need a nice little Rover to tootle around in... ;D ;D

If your reply contains B0ll0x then that's OK ;D ;D ;D

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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #7 on: 07 September 2007, 19:30:30 »
If you get stuck pm Tonygnome he likes burning things. :y
« Last Edit: 07 September 2007, 19:36:27 by CaptainZok »
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #8 on: 07 September 2007, 19:31:33 »
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Take a deep breath & count to 10.
Err maybe 100 or ..............
I'm counting gallons of petrol required to sort the problem ;D

You need a nice little Rover to tootle around in... ;D ;D

If your reply contains B0ll0x then that's OK ;D ;D ;D

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Say what you like about the Rover, the only BMW design in it is the cost cutting measures.  So 'dangle berries'.

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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #9 on: 07 September 2007, 19:32:05 »
rather word sensor   >:(

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« Last Edit: 07 September 2007, 19:32:31 by TheBoy »
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #10 on: 07 September 2007, 19:34:16 »
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rather word sensor   >:(

 :-X

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« Reply #11 on: 07 September 2007, 19:39:25 »
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Take a deep breath & count to 10.
Err maybe 100 or ..............
I'm counting gallons of petrol required to sort the problem ;D

You need a nice little Rover to tootle around in... ;D ;D

If your reply contains B0ll0x then that's OK ;D ;D ;D

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Say what you like about the Rover, the only BMW design in it is the cost cutting measures.  So 'dangle berries'.

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Can see it when you use quote  ;D
« Last Edit: 07 September 2007, 19:39:49 by paulmccristall »
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« Reply #12 on: 07 September 2007, 19:42:24 »
For all the obvious advantages of a chain... this is a prime example of the advantages of a belt.... anyone remember the Granada 2.8's "Plastic Engine"  It had a large timing gear in the front, it was cast steel with a sweated on "Tufnut" gear ring on it....  flooded mine once, got it running, rev'd the engine from cold to clear the flood and "POP"  sump full of "Tufnut" new gear required...  NO BENT VALVES EITHER...........

I do sincerely sympathise.....

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« Reply #13 on: 07 September 2007, 19:46:14 »
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Well i know it doesnt help......but i spose they thought the chain is never gonna be replaced....so it doesnt matter if its difficult to get to......

Head swap it is then  :y
Surely the chain is a friggin consumable?  Mind you, having read up on it a lot recently, seeing as BMW heads are incredibly prone to cracking, maybe they expect the chain to outlive the head.

Muppets  >:(

Mercs the same.....tho dunno how easy to replace.....but in for life of engine....apparently...according to merc.
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Re: BMW 'designers'
« Reply #14 on: 07 September 2007, 20:00:49 »
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Well i know it doesnt help......but i spose they thought the chain is never gonna be replaced....so it doesnt matter if its difficult to get to......

Head swap it is then  :y
Surely the chain is a friggin consumable?  Mind you, having read up on it a lot recently, seeing as BMW heads are incredibly prone to cracking, maybe they expect the chain to outlive the head.

Muppets  >:(

Mercs the same.....tho dunno how easy to replace.....but in for life of engine....apparently...according to merc.
Probably, in BMW's case, life of engine means lenght of warranty.  So 1yr/12k then.


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