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« on: 11 March 2007, 08:56:51 »

Are police cars uprated performance wise over civilian cars?
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Re: police cars
« Reply #1 on: 11 March 2007, 09:43:58 »

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Are police cars uprated performance wise over civilian cars?
They have a better power to weight ratio than civvy car - they carry less/no toys!  ;)
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Re: police cars
« Reply #2 on: 11 March 2007, 09:46:40 »

And have a Limited Slip Diff....
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« Reply #3 on: 11 March 2007, 10:52:39 »

plus according to EPC they have uprated suspension to cope with the weight of all the gear they carry, and it would appear some have a metal engine undertray instead of a plastic one.
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Re: police cars
« Reply #4 on: 11 March 2007, 10:56:05 »

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plus according to EPC they have uprated suspension to cope with the weight of all the gear they carry, and it would appear some have a metal engine undertray instead of a plastic one.

That would be for all the off-road stuff they do!
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Re: police cars
« Reply #5 on: 11 March 2007, 11:54:28 »

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Are police cars uprated performance wise over civilian cars?

Generally speaking, no.  Standard Panda types are bog standard mainstream diesel base models with some extra wiring.  The rank and file 'standard' patrol car has nothing more than heavy duty alternator, bigger battery (sometimes another one added to the boot - Beemers certainly do) extra wiring from the factory for roof bars, radios etc, sometimes bigger brakes, sometimes heavy duty clutch assemblies, sometimes heavier suspension and skid trays beneath the bodywork in the style of forest stage rally cars, it really varies from maker to maker and force to force.

Rarely engine mods, unless destined for specific roles such as high speed intercept/persuit, specific firearms type jobs, diplomatic protection etc but cars do sometimes come from the manufacturers AVO type works as demonstators with 'tweaked' settings.  

The weight loss/gain from the reduced trim specification level is offset by the bootfull of signs, cones, stinger, brushes, shovels, lights, first aid kit, crowbars, measuring tapes, handlamps, maps, specific paperwork etc etc that is carried.

I know of a Ford Explorer that was laden with all said kit and, when on a weighbridge, exceeded manufacturers rear axle and gross weights......  Had to get more expensive lightweight kit to get it back into the land of the legal.
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Re: police cars
« Reply #6 on: 11 March 2007, 20:29:34 »

In the Trade Club book, under exhausts it lists 'downpipes' (police use) at about £500 a piece. I don't know whats thats all about?
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Re: police cars
« Reply #7 on: 11 March 2007, 20:47:00 »

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The weight loss/gain from the reduced trim specification level is offset by the bootfull of signs, cones, stinger, brushes, shovels, lights, first aid kit, crowbars, measuring tapes, handlamps, maps, specific paperwork etc etc that is carried.

What, No doughnuts?  ;D
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Re: police cars
« Reply #8 on: 11 March 2007, 20:48:31 »

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Are police cars uprated performance wise over civilian cars?

Generally speaking, no.  Standard Panda types are bog standard mainstream diesel base models with some extra wiring.  The rank and file 'standard' patrol car has nothing more than heavy duty alternator, bigger battery (sometimes another one added to the boot - Beemers certainly do) extra wiring from the factory for roof bars, radios etc, sometimes bigger brakes, sometimes heavy duty clutch assemblies, sometimes heavier suspension and skid trays beneath the bodywork in the style of forest stage rally cars, it really varies from maker to maker and force to force.

Rarely engine mods, unless destined for specific roles such as high speed intercept/persuit, specific firearms type jobs, diplomatic protection etc but cars do sometimes come from the manufacturers AVO type works as demonstators with 'tweaked' settings.  

The weight loss/gain from the reduced trim specification level is offset by the bootfull of signs, cones, stinger, brushes, shovels, lights, first aid kit, crowbars, measuring tapes, handlamps, maps, specific paperwork etc etc that is carried.

I know of a Ford Explorer that was laden with all said kit and, when on a weighbridge, exceeded manufacturers rear axle and gross weights......  Had to get more expensive lightweight kit to get it back into the land of the legal.
You forgot to mention the added weight of do-nuts Brucie ;)
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Re: police cars
« Reply #9 on: 11 March 2007, 21:59:16 »

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In the Trade Club book, under exhausts it lists 'downpipes' (police use) at about £500 a piece. I don't know whats thats all about?

Interesting. Maybe they did something to improve the exhaust manifold design to liberate a few more horses. Or prevent them from getting cracked when speeding over speed bumps?

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« Reply #10 on: 11 March 2007, 22:18:49 »

Donuts are a disposable driver option........

If you need to go fast, open (manual) window and dispose....

Then answer complaint re literring....

 ;D     ;)

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Re: police cars
« Reply #11 on: 11 March 2007, 23:17:13 »

The consequential weight increase due to the donuts must be a little more difficult to shed quickly though?

 ;)

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Re: police cars
« Reply #12 on: 12 March 2007, 00:16:38 »

Well you can't get rid of the extra weight once the Donuts have been consumed....

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Re: police cars
« Reply #13 on: 12 March 2007, 09:06:57 »

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Well you can't get rid of the extra weight once the Donuts have been consumed....


How so?  Donuts are like polo mints and have a less fattening centre...   ;D
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Re: police cars
« Reply #14 on: 12 March 2007, 18:18:20 »

well you can get rid of the extra weight, ask an anorexic  ;D
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