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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #15 on: 23 August 2007, 17:45:06 »

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Take my fleet to a local place who know that I service my own. I look upon the test as a safe guard to my and others safety. Also more like a check on my workman ship.

Must admit I am very, very miffed if any of my cars fail upon presentation to the MOT. If the car is well maintaned then it should not fail. There is talk about the change to a 4 yearly MOT to bring into line with Europe, it does seem a step in the wrong direction, why do not they come into line with us? :-?

Have seen some shocking vehicles that have 12 months MOT on them and the only place they should be is in a breakers, so if in doubt contact the inspectorate for a check. :y
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I was under the impression it was going to be every 2 years, however that was about 3 months ago when i read that......

Personally i think it is a bad move to change from annual test, in a year i can travel 30,000 - 40,000 miles, in 4 years i could run a car into the ground and effectively not have to worry about any for of major work on it as its not really going to be inspected on a regular basis.
However i take the safety of me and my car seriously, that is why i would never allow it to get that bad, but i know there are others out there who wouldn't think twice about buying a car with a fresh ticket and then neglecting it for 4 years

a badly thought out idea by the DOT.....if they ever implement

..what I should have said was the first was going to be at the 4 year point then you are quite right in saying every two years there after. If any of the members have been in or staying in Germany and had a car taken through their testing then that can be a nightmare.(new shade of sack cloth and ashes coming my way  :-[)

Looking at the amount of new reg's with brake or tail lights out makes you want to swear. A neice of mine had a Micra (Mobility car) that had a total brake fail in it when it was just 3 months old. :o :o

Luckily her husband was not going fast or in heavy traffic when it happened. The dealership just shrugged its shoulders at the problem and basically said 'they all do that'. Took them a long time to fix the motor and even then neice did not trust it. ::)
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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #16 on: 24 August 2007, 12:20:15 »

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it would be interesting to log on here  - should show both the fail (and why) and the pass, plus any advisories
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECHID-Internet-History-Request.jsp

it's actually a very useful resource for checking mot history on a vehicle, esp now the computised system has been running for a couple of years

I just had a look on there, as when i bought my car 5 months ago with a full ticket, it says advisory issued on it, bu i never got this, so i just had a looky, god there is a right list, so at least i know what im in for next year when it runs out.......

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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #17 on: 24 August 2007, 13:05:07 »

The MOT regime in Spain is every two years until the car is ten years old then it is every year. The MOT centres are government run and each province (about the area of Leicestershire) has about 4.  I don't know when the first one occurs on new cars.

The test is every bit as rigorous as in the UK. In fact possibly more so. Anything non standard is a no no. That goes for wider wheels than shown on the cars vehicle document. Towbars are also subject to great scrutiny and the car log book shows if the car has one fitted or not. So much so that I have personally seen people taking them off in the car park and then putting them back on after the test!

Commercial vans are tested every six months!

Most people dawdle along and never stress their cars and I suspect that the majority of vehicles would be hard pushed to do more than 5000 miles a year - job commuting hasn't taken off here except for in the really big cities.

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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #18 on: 24 August 2007, 22:00:17 »

I would like to point out that VOSA does not make the rules. The law does that. Section 45 of the Road Traffic Act & Construction & use to name the main ones.

As a vehicle owner, driver etc it is down to you to ensure that it meets the minimum statutory requirements at all times while in use, not just once a year when the MOT comes around. If you obey the law, then your car would never fail the MOT!

It would appear that you have not been provided the service you paid for by at least one of the testing stations that you used so you should make a complaint to VOSA. this will put you out a little admittedly as you will have to submit your car for a re-examination by a Vehicle Examiner (better to be safe than sorry though and in your particular case should be free of charge). You will then recieve a report on your vehicle condition and a thank you letter.  Then the tester(s) at fault will be dealt with accordingly. I should point out that once issued, a VT20 MOT certificate cannot be revoked and remains valid until its expiry date (the law again).

Contact VOSA on 0870 6060440

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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #19 on: 24 August 2007, 22:12:31 »

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I would like to point out that VOSA does not make the rules. The law does that. Section 45 of the Road Traffic Act & Construction & use to name the main ones.....  

Correct, but its VOSA (or some other mechanically clever peeps) who say how much free play is too much free play or whatever.....

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I should point out that once issued, a VT20 MOT certificate cannot be revoked and remains valid until its expiry date (the law again).......
 

However, a VG9 or PG9 can be issued by a VOSA tester or a suitably qualified Police Officer whereby the vehicle must thereafter undertake a complete retest before the vehicle can be legally allowed to be used on a road, effectively binning any current VT20???

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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #20 on: 24 August 2007, 22:58:39 »

A VOSA Vehicle Examiner would not normally issue a PG9 prohibition to a vehicle that is subject of an MOT complaint. They still can do so, though it is frowned upon, as it deters people from making the complaint! (thats why I left that bit out!) Yes the PG9 effectively voids the exsisting current VT20.

Usually the common sense rule is applied. If it appears that the owner will not take remedial action for serious defects (Cat of Defects applies) following the Vehicle Examiners report before using the vehicle on the road it has to be done to protect all. Most MOT test defects only result in the issue of inspection notices IAW the CofD though.

Yes I agree that VOSA does advise government on technical issues, but you know how long it takes to get new legislation in......

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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #21 on: 24 August 2007, 23:01:51 »

 :y   ;)

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.......Ooooops! I may be giving away what I do for a living here!

Me too also!!   ;D
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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #22 on: 24 August 2007, 23:04:32 »

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Ooooops! I may be giving away what I do for a living here!
I think your forum name gives it away ;D
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Re: Heavens to Bettsy.....
« Reply #23 on: 24 August 2007, 23:16:19 »

That obvious eh? :D
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