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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #30 on: 06 January 2007, 18:37:07 »
New Cruise control is £37 +VAT
I have an Auto so it's as simple as swapping the indicator stalk. Just make sure you get part 981012
Even if the used one that I got on e-bay fails, it's cheap enough to replace (I wonder why it was never standard?)

Now - how about mods to make it more economic  on fuel? I don't need that extra Horse Power!

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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #31 on: 06 January 2007, 18:54:51 »
wot even though the box is a bmw one
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #32 on: 06 January 2007, 19:06:27 »
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wot even though the box is a bmw one

The autobox is not BMW, only the engine is  :y

The autobox in the diesels is not the strongest even with standard power... although post '98 i belive it was fitted with a better box (AR35?) Not sure...
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #33 on: 06 January 2007, 22:52:26 »
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wot even though the box is a bmw one

The autobox is not BMW, only the engine is  :y

The autobox in the diesels is not the strongest even with standard power... although post '98 i belive it was fitted with a better box (AR35?) Not sure...
Yes, the g/box is a GM unit. Earlier ones had the AR25, not really strong enough, and usually end up failing. Later ones had the AR35 as fitted to 3.0/3.2 petrol, much stronger.

I do not know when the cutover was from AR25 to AR35...
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #34 on: 03 July 2007, 20:15:54 »
The Diesel is a drive by wire system (no throttle cable) so its the engine ecu that controls the diesel pump electronicaly.

It uses a BMW management unit, this uses a set of resistors to signal which button is being pressed on the cruise stalk and hence the stalk is different to a standard Vauxhall one (and why there is only 2 wires).

2.0/2.2 Diesels use the same stalk as petrol models.

I found this out to my dismay  :'( when i bought a cruise control stalk from fleabay that would fit "all omegas" >:( >:( >:(, lying b!!!ard.
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #35 on: 03 July 2007, 20:17:56 »
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The Diesel is a drive by wire system (no throttle cable) so its the engine ecu that controls the diesel pump electronicaly.

It uses a BMW management unit, this uses a set of resistors to signal which button is being pressed on the cruise stalk and hence the stalk is different to a standard Vauxhall one (and why there is only 2 wires).

2.0/2.2 Diesels use the same stalk as petrol models.

I found this out to my dismay  :'( when i bought a cruise control stalk from fleabay that would fit "all omegas" >:( >:( >:(, lying b!!!ard.
Yes, 2.5TD uses the unique 2 wire stalk (£30 ish from dealer), all other Omegas use 4 wire stalk.  Due to the cheap price new, and the high failure rate as they get older, its false economy to buy 2nd hand...
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #36 on: 04 July 2007, 07:47:14 »
Fitting will take no more than 5 minutes
I bought one on e-bay for £5 & it has given no problems
Cynically, I suspect that not fitting it as 'Standard' meant that dealers could charge £100's extra for the feature when the car was ordered new
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #37 on: 04 July 2007, 08:16:39 »
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Fitting will take no more than 5 minutes
I bought one on e-bay for £5 & it has given no problems
Cynically, I suspect that not fitting it as 'Standard' meant that dealers could charge £100's extra for the feature when the car was ordered new
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Keep an eye on full beam coming on or flashing unexpectedly...

I think they did it to keep model range consistent. Remember, the non dbw petrols needed actuators etc which were costly, so only fitted to cdx and elites...
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #38 on: 24 October 2007, 14:37:43 »
if your not sure which cruise control stalk to get, take off the cowling behind the steering wheel and fish out the plug , it will be on the left hand side.

if its 2 wire, you need cruise stalk part number 9181012       12 41 221 1        (IDENT BK)

my tech jockey in the opel garage said this is the ONLY one for the tractor.

FYI, the cruise control stalk for the BMW TD is resistor operated instead of switch based for all other omegas, i whipped out my digital multimeter (calibrated) and got the following values. all vales are in ohms.

nothing pressed       670[ch937]
0 pressed              1680[ch937]
I pressed               61.2[ch937]
R pressed            155.3[ch937]

info may be usefull to someone.
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Re: Adding Cruise control 2.5 TD
« Reply #39 on: 24 October 2007, 20:14:34 »
For Omegas, the 2.5TD takes the 2 wire variant (with the resistor network), and all others take the 4 wire type...
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