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miggy

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« on: 08 October 2007, 22:32:46 »

Lets do a poll,

Lots of talk at the moment in Goverment on Tax, MOTs Testing etc

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Re: Caravan
« Reply #2 on: 08 October 2007, 22:48:50 »

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Lets do a poll,

Lots of talk at the moment in Goverment on Tax, MOTs Testing etc


Thats cos politicians don't go in caravans or own them ::)..................anything to grab some cash >:(..............thats why I have a tent, lets hope they don't want to tax them next, or Jaime and Timbuk will be paying the highest tent tax in the country ;D ;D
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« Reply #3 on: 08 October 2007, 22:51:38 »

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Lets do a poll,

Lots of talk at the moment in Goverment on Tax, MOTs Testing etc


Thats cos politicians don't go in caravans or own them ::)..................anything to grab some cash >:(..............thats why I have a tent, lets hope they don't want to tax them next, or Jaime and Timbuk will be paying the highest tent tax in the country ;D ;D

What do they have, poly tunnels

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« Reply #4 on: 08 October 2007, 22:52:15 »

Not against them as such but they should be tested as should anyone who wants to pull one (ooer)
  I know given my trade it's easy for me to sit in judgement and many caravanners maintain thier vans and know how to tow/reverse them but thier are as many who do'nt have a clue and these are a danger to themselves, thier loved ones, and others. Not to mention a right royal pain with the delays they cause people when they cock it up bigstyle. A few times over the years i've not made it home through running out of hours due to a caravan accident. Tyres, wheel bearings not checked, overloading, load distribution, etc.
  Apologies to those who do it properly but it's only those who do'nt that cause problems.
    
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« Reply #5 on: 08 October 2007, 22:59:29 »

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Not against them as such but they should be tested as should anyone who wants to pull one (ooer)
  I know given my trade it's easy for me to sit in judgement and many caravanners maintain thier vans and know how to tow/reverse them but thier are as many who do'nt have a clue and these are a danger to themselves, thier loved ones, and others. Not to mention a right royal pain with the delays they cause people when they cock it up bigstyle. A few times over the years i've not made it home through running out of hours due to a caravan accident. Tyres, wheel bearings not checked, overloading, load distribution, etc.
  Apologies to those who do it properly but it's only those who do'nt that cause problems.
    


[Serious head on for one moment .....]

I have been "held up" far more often by a broken down, badly loaded/maintained LGV than by a 'van.. trouble is the 'vans get the bad publicity not the LGV's.

Very few 'van drivers sit 18" from the rear of the vehicle in front whilst holding a conversation on CB/mobile phone !! or trying to overtake a vehicle doing 55mph in one doing 56mph.... but you see LGV's doing this all day !!

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« Reply #6 on: 08 October 2007, 23:01:44 »

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Not against them as such but they should be tested as should anyone who wants to pull one (ooer)
  I know given my trade it's easy for me to sit in judgement and many caravanners maintain thier vans and know how to tow/reverse them but thier are as many who do'nt have a clue and these are a danger to themselves, thier loved ones, and others. Not to mention a right royal pain with the delays they cause people when they cock it up bigstyle. A few times over the years i've not made it home through running out of hours due to a caravan accident. Tyres, wheel bearings not checked, overloading, load distribution, etc.
  Apologies to those who do it properly but it's only those who do'nt that cause problems.
    

Come on, i bet it is only a few times, I bet you have been held up more due to some of the dippy sale reps in accidents, compared to the amount of caravans on the road they are very safe, with less than 0.1% minor accidents, not bad to say there is a few hundred thousand on the road. How often do you see them causing probs, it is always the HGVs that hold me up when I am towing,

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Re: Caravan
« Reply #7 on: 08 October 2007, 23:04:48 »

You see so many trailers / caravans at the side of the road with blown out tyres / wheels simply fallen off due to wheel bearing failure. Makes me think that some sort of testing might be a good move, but I'd rather put up with one at the side of the road every so often than the levels of red tape and hassle that'd inevitably be involved for the 2 trailers I occasionally tow if the government were to bring in such legislation.

Some of them get laid up for years at a time and then someone decides it's holiday time and off they go without even the most basic checks for roadworthiness.

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« Reply #8 on: 08 October 2007, 23:08:41 »

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You see so many trailers / caravans at the side of the road with blown out tyres / wheels simply fallen off due to wheel bearing failure. Makes me think that some sort of testing might be a good move, but I'd rather put up with one at the side of the road every so often than the levels of red tape and hassle that'd inevitably be involved for the 2 trailers I occasionally tow if the government were to bring in such legislation.

Some of them get laid up for years at a time and then someone decides it's holiday time and off they go without even the most basic checks for roadworthiness.

Kevin


Totally agree, there should be some sort of test/check, I have my caravan serviced every year without fail at a cost of approx £120, but there are many people who dont.
I would welcome paying each year for a test.

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« Reply #9 on: 08 October 2007, 23:13:55 »

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You see so many trailers / caravans at the side of the road with blown out tyres / wheels simply fallen off due to wheel bearing failure. Makes me think that some sort of testing might be a good move, but I'd rather put up with one at the side of the road every so often than the levels of red tape and hassle that'd inevitably be involved for the 2 trailers I occasionally tow if the government were to bring in such legislation.
I've never seen one.

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Some of them get laid up for years at a time and then someone decides it's holiday time and off they go without even the most basic checks for roadworthiness.

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I have to agree with you there though.
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« Reply #10 on: 08 October 2007, 23:16:58 »

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Totally agree, there should be some sort of test/check, I have my caravan serviced every year without fail at a cost of approx £120, but there are many people who dont.
I would welcome paying each year for a test.

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 :-/  :-/  I've never paid someone to tick off the service sheet on anything. I've done it all my self - the service that is, not tick the boxes ;) Another government test would just be another expensive exercise that wouldn't achieve very much.

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« Reply #11 on: 08 October 2007, 23:21:24 »

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[Serious head on for one moment .....]

I have been "held up" far more often by a broken down, badly loaded/maintained LGV than by a 'van.. trouble is the 'vans get the bad publicity not the LGV's.

Very few 'van drivers sit 18" from the rear of the vehicle in front whilst holding a conversation on CB/mobile phone !! or trying to overtake a vehicle doing 55mph in one doing 56mph.... but you see LGV's doing this all day !!

[/serious head]

Couldn't agree more. I wonder how many so called caravan accidents have been caused by the f***er who just has to be in front of the caravan, not matter what, and then causes the caravan to have to brake hard/swerve etc etc. The caravan then get the blame as the contents of his 'van are spread across 3 lanes of the m/way. >:(
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« Reply #12 on: 08 October 2007, 23:22:18 »

I was just about to go to bed but couldn't resist a quick peek at a thread called, 'Caravan'. I never had you down as a closet caravanner Sir Miggy. Next thing, you'll be taking up golf.  ;D ;D

We bought a van last year and I totally agree with all that's been said about servicing. We are about to have ours serviced before we put it into storage for the winter, (Undercover). I always do a safety check before we take it away, check brakes, tyres, lights, damper, stabiliser etc. There is always the chance, in whatever vehicle you take to the road, that a critical component will fail and there is nothing you can do about it.

I also make sure that I practise reversing it as often as possible so that when I need to reverse it I am up to the job.

Bad caravanners give everyone a bad name. As mentioned earlier, there are thousands of people towing caravans all year round without a problem but when it goes wrong the caravan is always mentioned.

Incidentally, there was a lorry carrying a load of latex that overturned the other week (True story). It made me think that it was bound to attract lots of rubber neckers.  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 08 October 2007, 23:23:57 »

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Totally agree, there should be some sort of test/check, I have my caravan serviced every year without fail at a cost of approx £120, but there are many people who dont.
I would welcome paying each year for a test.

 :y :y :y
 :-/  :-/  I've never paid someone to tick off the service sheet on anything. I've done it all my self - the service that is, not tick the boxes ;) Another government test would just be another expensive exercise that wouldn't achieve very much.


i think it would be a good thing, if you are stopped by the police and you dont have a test certificate, you could be prosicuted just as with a car, it would ensure that the vans were roadworthy, just like cars, I know an MOT etc is only as good as the day its written, but there would be a way of policing it and it would take unroadworthy caravans off the road.
The service I have done is not a tick the box, it is a gas and electric service which by law only gas and electrical engineers are allowed to service, i go away each year knowing that all the electrics are correct and the gas flames/leaks are sorted to allow my family to sleep safe at night, so it is worth £120 per year and boxes to be ticked.
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« Reply #14 on: 08 October 2007, 23:26:33 »

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I was just about to go to bed but couldn't resist a quick peek at a thread called, 'Caravan'. I never had you down as a closet caravanner Sir Miggy. Next thing, you'll be taking up golf.  ;D ;D
We bought a van last year and I totally agree with all that's been said about servicing. We are about to have ours serviced before we put it into storage for the winter, (Undercover). I always do a safety check before we take it away, check brakes, tyres, lights, damper, stabiliser etc. There is always the chance, in whatever vehicle you take to the road, that a critical component will fail and there is nothing you can do about it.

I also make sure that I practise reversing it as often as possible so that when I need to reverse it I am up to the job.

Bad caravanners give everyone a bad name. As mentioned earlier, there are thousands of people towing caravans all year round without a problem but when it goes wrong the caravan is always mentioned.

Incidentally, there was a lorry carrying a load of latex that overturned the other week (True story). It made me think that it was bound to attract lots of rubber neckers.  ;D


NEVER, never, never, he says kicking and screaming.

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