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miggy

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Modification
« on: 14 March 2008, 09:19:49 »

Dont know if this should be in general chat or not but here goes...

Is there a modification on the market that can bring down the C02 emissions down on the Omega.. or any car for that matter.

I know cars produce what the manufactures state but surely there must be something that is a recognised modification.

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Re: Modification
« Reply #1 on: 14 March 2008, 09:27:54 »

If you use the wrong key, the engine doesn't start. 100% effective.  ;D
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Re: Modification
« Reply #2 on: 14 March 2008, 09:32:42 »

The CO2 emissions for taxation are logged with the DLVA based on the car's type approval data so even if you made a change, you can't get that information modified.

CO2 is really just a byproduct of burning carbon based fuel, hence the joke of the chancellor talking about "dirty" cars. The emissions are no more dirty, it's just a heavy car with a big engine so needs more fuel to move it. It's the laws of physics, really. Not much you can do to change it.

.. which means this stipidly low limit they're trying to impose on car manufacturers means they'll no doubt be making a lot of toilet cubicles on wheels that no-one wants to buy.  ::)

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« Reply #3 on: 14 March 2008, 09:35:30 »

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It's the laws of physics, really. Not much you can do to change it.


Are you Scottie from Star Trek?  ;D

I was going to say something similar just now, beaten to it again...
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« Reply #4 on: 14 March 2008, 09:36:45 »

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The CO2 emissions for taxation are logged with the DLVA based on the car's type approval data so even if you made a change, you can't get that information modified.

CO2 is really just a byproduct of burning carbon based fuel, hence the joke of the chancellor talking about "dirty" cars. The emissions are no more dirty, it's just a heavy car with a big engine so needs more fuel to move it. It's the laws of physics, really. Not much you can do to change it.

.. which means this stipidly low limit they're trying to impose on car manufacturers means they'll no doubt be making a lot of toilet cubicles on wheels that no-one wants to buy.  ::)

Kevin

Thought that.........shame really, someone could make a lot of money. Like the leeches in goverment
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Re: Modification
« Reply #5 on: 14 March 2008, 14:33:29 »

LPG
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Re: Modification
« Reply #6 on: 14 March 2008, 15:39:11 »

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LPG

Ohh! Nearly forgot. I think you'll get a whole 10 quid off your road tax for LPG!

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Re: Modification
« Reply #7 on: 14 March 2008, 15:59:44 »

...which would be £5 more than i was told!

think of the all around saving tho!
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Re: Modification
« Reply #8 on: 14 March 2008, 16:36:34 »

True. :y

 The overall saving is well worthwhile. It's just a shame it isn't more recognised when it comes to road tax and, now, congestion charging. In the words of Ken Livingstone, the acknowledged expert on LPG, however, "A dual fuel car can still be run on petrol".

Technically true, but what idiot would voluntarily pay petrol duty when he had a way out?  :-/

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« Reply #9 on: 14 March 2008, 20:18:50 »

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True. :y

 The overall saving is well worthwhile. It's just a shame it isn't more recognised when it comes to road tax and, now, congestion charging. In the words of Ken Livingstone, the acknowledged expert on LPG, however, "A dual fuel car can still be run on petrol".

Technically true, but what idiot would voluntarily pay petrol duty when he had a way out?  :-/

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it is kengestion!
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Re: Modification
« Reply #10 on: 17 March 2008, 23:16:36 »

You could fit a Waters canister inside you're tailpipe if it is for an MOT ;D
Might work for a while ;)
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« Reply #11 on: 18 March 2008, 10:02:22 »

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You could fit a Waters canister inside you're tailpipe if it is for an MOT ;D
Might work for a while ;)

 ;)

MOT emissions are a different matter, actually. They don't measure carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions at an MOT, only carbon monoxide (CO) and Hydrocarbons (HxCx).

These are essentially traces of unburnt and incompletely burnt fuel, and the emissions which are poisonous and do real damage, unlike the imaginary damage to the environment that CO2 does. A car equipped with a catalytic converter will clean these up effectively, so the MOT is really just verifying that something hasn't gone wrong with the cat.

An MOT test also doesn't measure the volume of gas, only the proportion of gases in the exhaust gas mix. So, an MOT test doesn't tell you anything about total emissions. You could hook a 1.1 Fiesta and a V12 Jag to a MOT tester and the readings would look the same. The Jag would be pumping out several times more volume of gases but we're not measuring that.

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