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rac and the miggy elite
« on: 07 April 2008, 20:21:47 »

i would be gratfull for your comments here regarding a problem i have with rac windscreens  :( last week they replaced my nearside front door glass and allso the rear, when the car went in it was fine there was no problems with regard to the air bag system.  :) on getting the car back the bose system was in safe mode and the airbag warning light was on, the great one  ::) "the boy" did the tech 2 on my gearbox but could not reset the airbag system becouse it seems the rac made a cock up possibly with regard to a senser or wireing in the door. having taken the car back to them the manager came out to look at it for him self  :-X "yes well sir this car has 6 airbags, 2 in the doors, 2 in the front seats, and 2 front ones"  :-/ :-/ :-/ i did not believe i was hearing this, "no mate it has 4 bags 2 front and 2 in the front seats, sensors and wireing for the side bags in the doors" i said..... na..na..na he said well the short of it is that he would not have it no way, im sure im right and hes wrong so in the morning its going back for them to prove me wrong, so lads am i right the omega elites only have 4 airbags as iv described, i cant wait to see his face when they take of the door panel and there is no bag in there........  :y  
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #1 on: 07 April 2008, 20:26:21 »

Yup, no bags in the doors mate
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #2 on: 07 April 2008, 20:35:03 »

I always thought there were bags in the Elite doors, or was it an option?
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #3 on: 07 April 2008, 20:35:19 »

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Yup, no bags in the doors mate

Quite a fan of the RAC aren't you Jon?  ::)  ::)  :y :y
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #4 on: 07 April 2008, 20:39:00 »

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I always thought there were bags in the Elite doors, or was it an option?

At least I'm not on my own. I'd always assumed as you did, but the big ally sheet is only a means to activate the pressure switch which tell the air bag to go off.
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #5 on: 07 April 2008, 20:39:07 »

Yes you are  correct.The Elite has 4 air bags in total.1 in each front seat on the outer side.1 in front of passenger seat in the curved dashboard panel..1 in the steering wheel to protect driver.RAC are wrong .
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #6 on: 07 April 2008, 20:47:30 »

No bags in the doors but there are sensors in the doors, which is probably what they've bu66ered. >:( Did Jaime manage to get a fault code out of the airbag system?

It is vital that they keep the polythene covering behind the door card intact as this is part of the side impact detection. I'm sure they know that - they're "professionals". :-X

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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #7 on: 07 April 2008, 20:50:39 »

Maybe I will change my door speakers now, lol, I was always worried about the air bag, as there is none I don't mind pulling the door card off
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #8 on: 07 April 2008, 20:58:50 »

Showing passenger door sensor communitcation issue. Since the passenger glass was replaced by our friends at the RAC.

My guess is they unplugged it or damaged the door loom.
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #9 on: 07 April 2008, 21:00:20 »

And Vista, one bag in steering wheel, one bag just above glovebox, and one in each front seat backrest.  All can be located by the word AIRBAG.

There are no airbags in the doors, just the sensors.
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #10 on: 07 April 2008, 21:05:50 »

yep jamie told him that and pointed this out to him.....but he aint havin it  ;D ;D ;D all i hope is that they are capable of putting this matter right  :-/ :-/ :-/
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #11 on: 07 April 2008, 21:08:07 »

or send the boys round lol :y
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #12 on: 08 April 2008, 07:42:42 »

Id go with TB's theory......I reckoned they've unplugged it and forgotten to reconnect it.......Ive had both drivers side and passenger side windows replaced.....and both times Ive taken it to RAC windscreens and both times they drilled the rivets out to remove the airbag sensor......so its either not possible to replace the window without doing so or makes life a lot easier by doing so.
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #13 on: 08 April 2008, 07:54:26 »

i had to have a new passangers window off insurance and i went to auto glass they seemed  quite professional and i didnt have any hastle

my work use RAC and they are being fleeced by em for windscreens that arent damaged etc
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Re: rac and the miggy elite
« Reply #14 on: 08 April 2008, 09:05:29 »

My personal experience of RAC windscreens is that they are a bunch of corner cutting, lack of attention to detail cowboys!

If they had done a proper job they would have noticed the airbag light but, have chosen to ignore it!

Anyway, here is a quote from TIS highlighting that they will have had to have buggered with the door sensor in order to get the glass out.

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Sash Window – Front Door, Remove and Install

  Remove

Front door inner panelling – see operation "Front door inner panelling – Remove and Install". Water vapour barrier.

For side airbag: Remove side airbag sensor bracket – see operation "Sensor Bracket – Side Airbag, Remove and Install".

Outside rear view mirror – see operation "Outside Rear View Mirror, Replace" in group "R". Detach channel seal-inside front door, channel seal-outside front door, guide rail (1). Front door window winder – see operation "Front Door Window Winder, Remove and Install". Loosen window frame weatherstrip, upper front door weatherstrip, pull out sash window in upward direction.

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Insert guide rail, insert sash window into front door and guide rail. Fasten window winder and guide rail, install front door weatherstrip, window frame weatherstrip, front door inner channel seal, front door outer channel seal.
 


And a drawing of the setup:



where:

1) Side airbag mounted in side of the front seat
2) Pressure sensitive airbag sensor mounted on aluminium plate riveted to lower half of the door.
3) Airbag control unit under the centre console.


Give them hell!
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