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Martin_1962

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Plumbing advice
« on: 21 October 2007, 20:55:38 »

We need a new sink >:(

I did promise. SHe moans I get a spoiler but as I said you can't put a sink on a car!

Anyway, I will need to solder. Any advice?
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #1 on: 21 October 2007, 20:57:54 »

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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #2 on: 21 October 2007, 20:59:23 »

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We need a new sink >:(

I did promise. SHe moans I get a spoiler but as I said you can't put a sink on a car!

Anyway, I will need to solder. Any advice?

You don't need to solder, compression joints/fittings work fine, you also get the push fit fittings copper and plastic, but they are a pain if you have to take them apart for any reason, compression fittings you can't go wrong :y
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2007, 21:02:23 »

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We need a new sink >:(

I did promise. SHe moans I get a spoiler but as I said you can't put a sink on a car!

Anyway, I will need to solder. Any advice?

You don't need to solder, compression joints/fittings work fine, you also get the push fit fittings copper and plastic, but they are a pain if you have to take them apart for any reason, compression fittings you can't go wrong :y
Agreed, Thats what I used:y
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #4 on: 21 October 2007, 21:07:44 »

as above
but get flexable pipes makes life so much easier.
something like these :y
http://www.trueshopping.co.uk/catalog.php?cid=94&affid=7
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #5 on: 21 October 2007, 21:09:37 »

Add these to the ends for easy fitting http://www.wickes.co.uk/icat/cfflexible :y
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2007, 21:12:05 »

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Add these to the ends for easy fitting http://www.wickes.co.uk/icat/cfflexible :y

Whilst those do the job they are crap and won't last as long as compression fittings, use compression fittings Martin :y
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« Reply #7 on: 21 October 2007, 21:15:08 »

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Add these to the ends for easy fitting http://www.wickes.co.uk/icat/cfflexible :y

Whilst those do the job they are crap and won't last as long as compression fittings, use compression fittings Martin :y

They're braided stainless hoses Mike with compression fittings - can't use them in my house though as they are all push fit's  :(  If it's tight under the sink they are useful  :P
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #8 on: 21 October 2007, 21:20:21 »

My worry is that we need to replace taps too and they are soldered on by the look of it.

Compression fittings look OK, but isolation thingies would be nice too.

Water is my main fear - electricity does not spurt out and gas is lower pressure
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #9 on: 21 October 2007, 21:31:38 »

might sound like a daft question ,but do you have a combi boiler?
or large storage tank for you hot water?
just trying to figure out the best way to advise you.
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #10 on: 21 October 2007, 21:55:54 »

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might sound like a daft question ,but do you have a combi boiler?
or large storage tank for you hot water?
just trying to figure out the best way to advise you.


Got a hot water tank and a boiler in the kitchen, I'll map out the plumbing sometime, matter of looking for shut off taps if there are any
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #11 on: 21 October 2007, 22:13:52 »

If you have a water cylinder you will have to isolate it or drain the tank, there should be a  gate valve by the cylinder but they usually seize up as are very rarely used . Soldering is always the best way to go in my opinion and is not that difficult, you just need to make sure your joints are cleaned thoroughly with wire wool . Most monobloc taps come with screw in pipes that you can solder onto or fit push/ compression fitting to. If you have two seperate taps you will be able to fit flexi pipes to them if yoe wish.
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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #12 on: 21 October 2007, 22:17:11 »

Hi Martin,


                 You seem to have a load of plumbers advising you so here is my twopenceworh.

Cooper pipe : Yorkshire fittings: wire wool : solder flux : solder : gas lamp : junior hacksaw : halfround file : Clean rag : You ready :question

Pipe cut to length : debur both ends ext and int : clean ends of pipe with wire wool : nice and shinny.

gas lamp on heat one end of pipe and dip into flux: still heating pipe rub your solder against pipe, presto solder runs around the pipe, dont be afraid to re-dip into flux, holding cloth wipe solder around the pipe, let the end cool, if you dip into water it will work harden, repeat for all other ends.
your pipes are now tinned.
when you assemble with joints (pre-cleaned with wirewool int) use plenty of flux, apply heat you will see the solder melt around the pipe, dont be afraid of applying more solder, wipe around with cloth, job done
just clean off all flux meths is good, it will stop the joints oxidising (going green) take your time you will get better as you go along.  just saved a fortune, compression fittings cost a fortune.

P.S. dont tell any plumbers cleaning pipes is quite a strain for them, never was and never will be a trade, just a myth spread by gorgie to justify a constant rip off. happy plumbing.

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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #13 on: 21 October 2007, 22:34:10 »

Hi,
yes as Justme said, soldering is easy, once you get used to it. Mind you I like push-on fittings for water mains pressure, they saved me several £1000s. I once bought a house where they had replaced the sink themselves, using push on fittings, but hadn't pushed on very well. Result, when they left the house preparing to sell it, the push ons pushed off, and flooded the downstairs. The smell was........ Result when they sold the house, no one was interested, and we got a substantial discount. Learn how to solder, once you get the hang of it, its easy, and a good soldered joint should last for ever.
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Martin_1962

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Re: Plumbing advice
« Reply #14 on: 22 October 2007, 09:57:25 »

I'll check the DIY stores for supplies then.

I have bodged the sink for now
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