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One of my colleagues has been arrested - opinions?
« on: 20 October 2007, 22:29:22 »

I work with this guy everyday, know him very well.

He has had his house raided and been arrested by police, for online crimes.

See these news articles - opinions please!

I'm not confident on his employment position, if he's been hosting this stuff at our ISP..

http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2195407,00.html

http://www.thenewfreedom.net/wp/2007/10/19/tv-linkscouk-raided-owner-arrested/

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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #1 on: 20 October 2007, 22:32:53 »

I don't think his employment position is something he needs to worry about.

Sounds like a custodial to me and a big fine too :(
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #2 on: 20 October 2007, 22:37:04 »

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I don't think his employment position is something he needs to worry about.

Sounds like a custodial to me and a big fine too :(

Fine is suggested on the web to be One Hundred Million Pounds...
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #3 on: 20 October 2007, 22:39:36 »

Firstly, he's innocent until proved guilty.
However, if he is proved guilty then I would guess that your company (ISP if I remember rightly), would terminate his employment give the indusry you are in. Meanwhile they may want to suspend him on full pay awaiting the outcome.

and if he is guilty, what a plonker for calling having such a give away domain name. It may as well been http://www.comeandarrestmeforpiracy.co.uk
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #4 on: 20 October 2007, 22:41:50 »

Depends

If he serves torrents he is not breaking the law, if he holds the actual video files he is breaking copywrite law.

If it is films he will get a lot more than if it is TV

Just read a bit more - he is not guilty of anything - he hosts nothing
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #5 on: 20 October 2007, 22:48:18 »

I would suspect from the point that he is charged that the company my cease employment...
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #6 on: 20 October 2007, 22:50:03 »

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Firstly, he's innocent until proved guilty.
However, if he is proved guilty then I would guess that your company (ISP if I remember rightly), would terminate his employment give the indusry you are in. Meanwhile they may want to suspend him on full pay awaiting the outcome.

and if he is guilty, what a plonker for calling having such a give away domain name. It may as well been http://www.comeandarrestmeforpiracy.co.uk


suspend him on full pay :question

They very well may find themselves being held liable if done on thier equipment : thier time : by thier employee.  what a bunch if they do not take precautions to protect themselves from thier own employees. I bet there are a few people there with thier fingers crossed.
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #7 on: 20 October 2007, 22:52:31 »

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Firstly, he's innocent until proved guilty.
However, if he is proved guilty then I would guess that your company (ISP if I remember rightly), would terminate his employment give the indusry you are in. Meanwhile they may want to suspend him on full pay awaiting the outcome.

and if he is guilty, what a plonker for calling having such a give away domain name. It may as well been http://www.comeandarrestmeforpiracy.co.uk


suspend him on full pay :question

They very well may find themselves being held liable if done on thier equipment : thier time : by thier employee.  what a bunch if they do not take precautions to protect themselves from thier own employees. I bet there are a few people there with thier fingers crossed.

He may have already been suspended.. and it may be on full pay.. but I cannot comment on company internals here...
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #8 on: 20 October 2007, 22:55:15 »

Looks like they may well be innocent ::)...however, the group FACT may just want to try this one out as an example, potentially the first case of its kind in the UK?, Interesting to see what the outcome is.
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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #9 on: 20 October 2007, 23:15:59 »

Can't really comment on the specifics, copyright and piracy laws are a bit vague and their enforcement very selective. The main issues behind it is that (a) infringements are very common and not always practical to enforce, i.e. they can't chase everyone who bought a pirated DVD for a Pound,  and (b) in all cases this is motivated by commercial organisation e.g. FACT or BAST who utilise the services of Police, but the Police will rarely seek out offenders on their own accord unless guided by the copyright owners.

If this goes to court, your colleague may very well find that although he will be prosecuted by the CPS, it will be FACT people sitting behind them who will be running the show. And no doubt they will want to make an example out of him this is how they operate.

But as general advise, it is not about being right, because a police raid, arrest, and prosecution can ruin someone quite easily even if he is eventually found not guilty.




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Re: One of my colleagues has been arrested - opini
« Reply #10 on: 20 October 2007, 23:20:03 »

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Can't really comment on the specifics, copyright and piracy laws are a bit vague and their enforcement very selective. The main issues behind it is that (a) infringements are very common and not always practical to enforce, i.e. they can't chase everyone who bought a pirated DVD for a Pound,  and (b) in all cases this is motivated by commercial organisation e.g. FACT or BAST who utilise the services of Police, but the Police will rarely seek out offenders on their own accord unless guided by the copyright owners.

If this goes to court, your colleague may very well find that although he will be prosecuted by the CPS, it will be FACT people sitting behind them who will be running the show. And no doubt they will want to make an example out of him this is how they operate.

But as general advise, it is not about being right, because a police raid, arrest, and prosecution can ruin someone quite easily even if he is eventually found not guilty.




tes not good either way whatever the outcome >:(...................Oh and by the way welcome newbie ::)
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« Reply #11 on: 21 October 2007, 00:11:20 »

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Can't really comment on the specifics, copyright and piracy laws are a bit vague and their enforcement very selective. The main issues behind it is that (a) infringements are very common and not always practical to enforce, i.e. they can't chase everyone who bought a pirated DVD for a Pound,  and (b) in all cases this is motivated by commercial organisation e.g. FACT or BAST who utilise the services of Police, but the Police will rarely seek out offenders on their own accord unless guided by the copyright owners.

If this goes to court, your colleague may very well find that although he will be prosecuted by the CPS, it will be FACT people sitting behind them who will be running the show. And no doubt they will want to make an example out of him this is how they operate.

But as general advise, it is not about being right, because a police raid, arrest, and prosecution can ruin someone quite easily even if he is eventually found not guilty.




tes not good either way whatever the outcome >:(...................Oh and by the way welcome newbie ::)

...Twice newbie... it's my second time you know   8-)
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« Reply #12 on: 21 October 2007, 00:32:45 »

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Can't really comment on the specifics, copyright and piracy laws are a bit vague and their enforcement very selective. The main issues behind it is that (a) infringements are very common and not always practical to enforce, i.e. they can't chase everyone who bought a pirated DVD for a Pound,  and (b) in all cases this is motivated by commercial organisation e.g. FACT or BAST who utilise the services of Police, but the Police will rarely seek out offenders on their own accord unless guided by the copyright owners.

If this goes to court, your colleague may very well find that although he will be prosecuted by the CPS, it will be FACT people sitting behind them who will be running the show. And no doubt they will want to make an example out of him this is how they operate.

But as general advise, it is not about being right, because a police raid, arrest, and prosecution can ruin someone quite easily even if he is eventually found not guilty.




tes not good either way whatever the outcome >:(...................Oh and by the way welcome newbie ::)

...Twice newbie... it's my second time you know   8-)

Besides... I am in good company, Kevin Wood is a newbie as well... apparently...  :o
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« Reply #13 on: 21 October 2007, 01:00:41 »

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Can't really comment on the specifics, copyright and piracy laws are a bit vague and their enforcement very selective. The main issues behind it is that (a) infringements are very common and not always practical to enforce, i.e. they can't chase everyone who bought a pirated DVD for a Pound,  and (b) in all cases this is motivated by commercial organisation e.g. FACT or BAST who utilise the services of Police, but the Police will rarely seek out offenders on their own accord unless guided by the copyright owners.

If this goes to court, your colleague may very well find that although he will be prosecuted by the CPS, it will be FACT people sitting behind them who will be running the show. And no doubt they will want to make an example out of him this is how they operate.

But as general advise, it is not about being right, because a police raid, arrest, and prosecution can ruin someone quite easily even if he is eventually found not guilty.




tes not good either way whatever the outcome >:(...................Oh and by the way welcome newbie ::)

...Twice newbie... it's my second time you know   8-)

Besides... I am in good company, Kevin Wood is a newbie as well... apparently...  :o
And me.
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« Reply #14 on: 21 October 2007, 08:07:20 »

Haha! Welcome, CZ!  ;D
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