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Question 2 - Water Leak
« on: 02 August 2008, 00:18:07 »
Trip to the coast and back, Water coolant water level warning on before setoff, topped up about a litre.

No problems till about 150 miles of the 175 covered today.  Coolant water level warning on again.

Will check tomorrow.  Automatic thought after all the threads I have read is the HBV.  Will the problem be obvious, or will I have to do anything to test it.

If no the HBV what is the next obvious common problem(s) with the V6  Will check all hoses and clips as best as I can.

TIA.   :y
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Re: Question 2 - Water Leak
« Reply #1 on: 02 August 2008, 00:18:47 »
more than likely hbv pal  :y
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Re: Question 2 - Water Leak
« Reply #2 on: 02 August 2008, 00:30:21 »
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more than likely hbv pal  :y

 :y Cheers  :y
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« Reply #3 on: 02 August 2008, 00:33:21 »
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more than likely hbv pal  :y

Agreed, and when mine went two weeks ago water was just dripping fast from/over the pipes and rear of the engine, but the HBV when in stitu and removed showed no signs of aany external faults.  So don't expect that to be the case with yours Skruntie. :y
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Re: Question 2 - Water Leak
« Reply #4 on: 02 August 2008, 00:46:14 »
I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.
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« Reply #5 on: 02 August 2008, 00:49:56 »
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I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.

Tank was at operating level.

The fact is that the HBV is ABOVE the level of the header tank, heater matrix, engine, and raditor so contrary to the guide the system does NOT require draining. ;)

I had just a few spots of water drip from the pipework. :y
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Re: Question 2 - Water Leak
« Reply #6 on: 02 August 2008, 00:51:57 »
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I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.

Tank was at operating level.

The fact is that the HBV is ABOVE the level of the header tank, heater matrix, engine, and raditor so contrary to the guide the system does NOT require draining. ;)

I had just a few spots of water drip from the pipework. :y

Cheers Lizzie.

Will get my mate to have a look in the morning, think I will fit a new one anyway, then it's done and forgotton.   :y
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« Reply #7 on: 02 August 2008, 00:56:44 »
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I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.

Tank was at operating level.

The fact is that the HBV is ABOVE the level of the header tank, heater matrix, engine, and raditor so contrary to the guide the system does NOT require draining. ;)

I had just a few spots of water drip from the pipework. :y

Cheers Lizzie.

Will get my mate to have a look in the morning, think I will fit a new one anyway, then it's done and forgotton.   :y

Ok Skruntie!   Although it is a fiddly job it is not difficult and well worth the effort. :y

HBV Vx part no. is 090566947 price £34.02 (at Caffyns) with no TC discount available. ;)
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« Reply #8 on: 02 August 2008, 01:01:56 »
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I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.

Tank was at operating level.

The fact is that the HBV is ABOVE the level of the header tank, heater matrix, engine, and raditor so contrary to the guide the system does NOT require draining. ;)

I had just a few spots of water drip from the pipework. :y

Cheers Lizzie.

Will get my mate to have a look in the morning, think I will fit a new one anyway, then it's done and forgotton.   :y

Ok Skruntie!   Although it is a fiddly job it is not difficult and well worth the effort. :y

HBV Vx part no. is 090566947 price £34.02 (at Caffyns) with no TC discount available. ;)

Too fiddly for me, I have no patientence at all at the moment, the only up side mide have been me smashing the screen taking the wiper nuts off.

Down side is the £70 liabilty and the fact I am with Admiral I think it is RAC windscreens doing the work.
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« Reply #9 on: 02 August 2008, 01:09:09 »
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I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.

Tank was at operating level.

The fact is that the HBV is ABOVE the level of the header tank, heater matrix, engine, and raditor so contrary to the guide the system does NOT require draining. ;)

I had just a few spots of water drip from the pipework. :y

Cheers Lizzie.

Will get my mate to have a look in the morning, think I will fit a new one anyway, then it's done and forgotton.   :y

Ok Skruntie!   Although it is a fiddly job it is not difficult and well worth the effort. :y

HBV Vx part no. is 090566947 price £34.02 (at Caffyns) with no TC discount available. ;)

Too fiddly for me, I have no patientence at all at the moment, the only up side mide have been me smashing the screen taking the wiper nuts off.

Down side is the £70 liabilty and the fact I am with Admiral I think it is RAC windscreens doing the work.

That is bad news; like being told Kwik Fittup were doing it!!! :o :o :o

How on earth did you manage to smash the w/s when undoing the wipers. :o :o  With good technique they come off easily. ::) ::) ::)

Oh well, at least you will end up with a well fitted w/s.......if you use Autoglass! ;D ;D ;)


PS;  Is there an OOF member in your area to help you?
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I followed the thread you wrote Lizzie, but what really confused me was when you said the was no coolant loss changing the HBV.  Was that before you topped up the header tank, or with the header tank at operating level.

Tank was at operating level.

The fact is that the HBV is ABOVE the level of the header tank, heater matrix, engine, and raditor so contrary to the guide the system does NOT require draining. ;)

I had just a few spots of water drip from the pipework. :y

Cheers Lizzie.

Will get my mate to have a look in the morning, think I will fit a new one anyway, then it's done and forgotton.   :y

Ok Skruntie!   Although it is a fiddly job it is not difficult and well worth the effort. :y

HBV Vx part no. is 090566947 price £34.02 (at Caffyns) with no TC discount available. ;)

Too fiddly for me, I have no patientence at all at the moment, the only up side mide have been me smashing the screen taking the wiper nuts off.

Down side is the £70 liabilty and the fact I am with Admiral I think it is RAC windscreens doing the work.

That is bad news; like being told Kwik Fittup were doing it!!! :o :o :o

How on earth did you manage to smash the w/s when undoing the wipers. :o :o  With good technique they come off easily. ::) ::) ::)

Oh well, at least you will end up with a well fitted w/s.......if you use Autoglass! ;D ;D ;)


PS;  Is there an OOF member in your area to help you?

Slightly miss writen by me.

I have not done the job yet.  An OOF member damaged his screen doing the HBV IIRC.  

My point was being possitive would be getting a new windscreen by accident.   ::) ::) ::)  The down side would have been the £70 Premium and the RAC fitting it.

Sorry.
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« Reply #11 on: 02 August 2008, 01:29:31 »
Ah right!  Now I understand! :D :D

I have noted comments about removing w/s wipers before, but frankly, I don't know about you, I have never had any trouble doing this on any car I have owned or been in possession of.  

It just requires a technique of lifting the arm into the "bent"/ clear of w/s mode, with the nuts removed, and gently "wiggling" them off the motor shaft, for them to simply come free. ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 02 August 2008, 20:56:19 »
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I know the guide illustrates removing the wiper arms and scuttle to change the HBV.  But I did my HBV with only removing the plenum, and gently swivelling the stiff brake vac pipe on the grommet in the brake vac unit out of the way, and I have hands the size of Henry Cooper !!

Yes, an awkward job, but have had worse.

Roger
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« Reply #13 on: 02 August 2008, 21:24:15 »
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I know the guide illustrates removing the wiper arms and scuttle to change the HBV.  But I did my HBV with only removing the plenum, and gently swivelling the stiff brake vac pipe on the grommet in the brake vac unit out of the way, and I have hands the size of Henry Cooper !!

Yes, an awkward job, but have had worse.

Roger

I have to get the belts and water pump changed, might be worth doing the HBV at the same time.
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« Reply #14 on: 02 August 2008, 22:14:12 »
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Ah right!  Now I understand! :D :D

I have noted comments about removing w/s wipers before, but frankly, I don't know about you, I have never had any trouble doing this on any car I have owned or been in possession of.  

It just requires a technique of lifting the arm into the "bent"/ clear of w/s mode, with the nuts removed, and gently "wiggling" them off the motor shaft, for them to simply come free. ;)


Lizzie Z - i can assure you from experience that getting wipper arms off omega's is an absolute Pain in the @~#[ing #rse ::)
perhaps your gentle wiggling technique is better than mine  ;):D
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