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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #30 on: 26 October 2007, 16:47:39 »

im with davlad all the way here , a dti with cruise takes smooth to a new level especially when towing
Also no timing belts to change  as its a chain [bulletproof) engine :y
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« Reply #31 on: 26 October 2007, 16:49:09 »

I am sold now , whats the best spec you can get with the 2.2 dti engine? , i mean can you still get elite?

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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #32 on: 26 October 2007, 18:35:18 »

Likewise, I will be meeting M-Tek at Ferrybridge next week, don't know where you are at but you are welcome to come and try the 2.2dti before and after the re-map.  :y

Just a point on the cruise, my CD spec did not have it but only took me to replace the stalk and everything worked, I have seen other say the same thing.
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #33 on: 26 October 2007, 18:39:01 »

Yes! the 2.2dti does come in Elite spec.
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #34 on: 26 October 2007, 19:23:28 »

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me personally would go for the 2.5 as it is a bmw unit and very very reliable,not to say that the 2.2 isn't cos it is,but 2.5 bmw is very good :y :y :y
Err, sorry, would have to disagree.
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #35 on: 26 October 2007, 19:31:18 »

As you all know, I have a 2.5TD Elite.

Being 6 cylinder, it will always be a smoother engine than the 2.2.  In standard form, its awful. Chipped makes it more drivable, and economical.  However, I would not recommend an auto with this engine (even ar35) - it loses so much power through it.

The short oil changes are no problem, as you want to be changing diesel oil every 3k anyway, due to the particulates.


No small TD will have lots of torque low down, as its utterly reliant on the turbo.

The BMW unit is not as good as uneducated people think.


The 2.2 seems to have its fair share of reliability/performance issues.


My advice - find one you fancy, and test drive it.


BTW, I have found the V6 to be very reliable, no niggles, with only one breakdown in 4yrs of ownership (rather crank sensor), which makes it most reliable vehicle I've had.
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #36 on: 26 October 2007, 19:53:08 »

TB,

You have transplanted a diesel engine havent you. So what diesel engine would you recommend to fit in the omega to give decent economy and decent performance?

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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #37 on: 26 October 2007, 19:56:18 »

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No small TD will have lots of torque low down, as its utterly reliant on the turbo.

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That's certainly true of my 1.7 low blow Astra. F*** all happens till almost 2000rpm when the turbo spins up.  :(  :(
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #38 on: 26 October 2007, 20:28:10 »

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No small TD will have lots of torque low down, as its utterly reliant on the turbo.

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That's certainly true of my 1.7 low blow Astra. F*** all happens till almost 2000rpm when the turbo spins up.  :(  :(
Same for all (car) turbos, need the turbo to be singing before the power comes...
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #39 on: 26 October 2007, 20:28:46 »

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TB,

You have transplanted a diesel engine havent you. So what diesel engine would you recommend to fit in the omega to give decent economy and decent performance?

Matt
V6 2.5 manual.  Its not a diesel, and its a V6.
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #40 on: 26 October 2007, 20:29:47 »

So you dont rate diesels i take it?

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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #41 on: 26 October 2007, 20:33:09 »

I removed the cat on my Rover diesel and the turbo now starts to kick in about 1500 RPM and the good thing about a diesel is its only a visual smoke test for the MOT :y
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #42 on: 26 October 2007, 20:37:05 »

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So you dont rate diesels i take it?

Matt
I'm actually a diesel fan, have been for years.But the 2.5, esp manual, can match the mpg except on decent motorway runs.
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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #43 on: 26 October 2007, 20:54:43 »

Yeah can see your point. I just wish the v6's werent so fiddly.

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Re: 2.2 dti vs 2.5td
« Reply #44 on: 26 October 2007, 20:58:41 »

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Yeah can see your point. I just wish the v6's werent so fiddly.

Matt

I think TB will tell you that the BMW 2.5 TD is more fiddly than the VX V6........... Read the threads about all the problems he encountered with his TD and I think you'll agree
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