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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #45 on: 13 September 2008, 14:34:13 »
drop the rear sump and check the filter first,make sure that it isn,t blocked.the ar25 and ar35 pumps are identical.
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #46 on: 13 September 2008, 14:36:16 »
no need to get to heavy on the filter cleaning just see if it will pass liquid even water will do.
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #47 on: 13 September 2008, 17:09:41 »
right the fliter is out, tried water in the pickup end & it just sat there not moving, wouldnt the atf stop water anyway? i dunno but as its out i`ll clean it,[engine cleaner o,k?] there was quite alot of sludgey stuff on the magnet is this normal?now the pump, is that the thing that looks like a metal tit in one corner!, im just as well to change it to play safe as i know the old box was pumping o,k, before i get on is there anything else i should be looking for as i dont want to keep taking it apart, i await my next instructions ;)
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #48 on: 13 September 2008, 17:11:39 »
The filter should pass water and fluid, engine cleaner will shift the crudd (or the one in your old box might be better?).

In reality, the filter is little more than a strainer!
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #49 on: 13 September 2008, 17:20:33 »
cheers MDTM how about the pump, is it that tit shaped thing in the corner, it would be silly not to change it as i dont know the state of mine especially as its been running dry.
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #50 on: 13 September 2008, 17:23:15 »
no, the atf would not stop the water, could be you have the first blocked filter that im aware off,question is what blocked it.the thingy in the corner is a magnet to trap large particles.the pump sits at the front of the box behind the tc in the box, you have to remove the box and bell housing to see it.clean or nick the filter from your ar25 and try your pump test again.
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #51 on: 13 September 2008, 17:23:39 »
No its not, the pump is inside the box....
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #52 on: 13 September 2008, 17:24:51 »
So....we have water in the oil?

Engine loosing coolant?

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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #53 on: 13 September 2008, 17:25:26 »
Ow yes, the little tit you can see is the brake band servo
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #54 on: 13 September 2008, 17:34:40 »
just as well i asked but hearing that youve never heard of a blocked filter is worrying, but as i say water dont seem to pass through it unless i have to leave it for any amount of time, with my luck its probably the pump but we`ll soon find out i suppose, & just to confirm that the pump or filter are the only things that would stop the flow of atf.
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #55 on: 13 September 2008, 17:38:29 »
no no no DTM!, no water in g/box, just trying filter with water, you havent been down the pub have you ;D
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #56 on: 13 September 2008, 19:32:44 »
I'd say clean the the filter out (apparently petrol works well) and sh 1 t or bust and see if (with some oil in..) it'll work.

Possibility - only a theory - the long run went and cleaned the box out when the oil was nice and hot.  Sludge seperates from the oil, then sits in the bottom of the sump until the first cold start, where it promptly gets stopped by the filter as its now a lot thicker than it was..

Make sense to anyone else?  I've only had half a beer so far, so brain is still (sort of) working..
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #57 on: 13 September 2008, 19:34:03 »
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just as well i asked but hearing that youve never heard of a blocked filter is worrying, but as i say water dont seem to pass through it unless i have to leave it for any amount of time, with my luck its probably the pump but we`ll soon find out i suppose, & just to confirm that the pump or filter are the only things that would stop the flow of atf.
Tim, no-one had ever heard of a dead ECU before...you seem to go where others had never thought of..  Perhaps change your name to Cpt. Kirk?
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #58 on: 13 September 2008, 19:41:12 »
Clean the filter and give the magnet a clean/wipe...put it all back and run it to see if its nowpumping out...should be enough fluid in the system still so as not to damage the box for this quick simple test...if its pumping out then your sorted for now...if not then I guess its the pump which has failed...

As it came out of a car that was taxed/MOT'd and running fine uncluding gearbox, 1 week of use before the pump going would have to go down as seriously unlucky! lol

Of course, as said there could be a reason why the box has blocked and sludged up (could be as simple as it not having been serviced for a while before) but you may find if its just the filter blocked you need to clean it out a time or two more till all the system is cleaned out fully...

Fingers crossed anyway for you mate
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Re: stuff my luck with autos.
« Reply #59 on: 13 September 2008, 19:43:48 »
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No its not, the pump is inside the box....

I seem to recall when Mr Sassanach took mine apart it was just behind the bellhousing - the thrust washer sits on it?  :-/
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