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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #15 on: 22 November 2008, 09:16:32 »

Lol....covered this a few times

You would want.

Saab rods and pistons (they did a low blow turbo version so the compression is lower and the rods stronger).
Super charger (jag?)
Modifications to the block cooling.
I would stud the mains.
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #16 on: 22 November 2008, 10:45:13 »

albatros google Steinmetz and find theyre website on there is a supercharged tuning service for the 3.0 and 3.2 btw Jim has been to steinmetz and he told me its very very very expensive!
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #17 on: 22 November 2008, 11:09:16 »

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albatros google Steinmetz and find theyre website on there is a supercharged tuning service for the 3.0 and 3.2 btw Jim has been to steinmetz and he told me its very very very expensive!

Thanks, but I've tried them (well the UK distributor at least) and apparently this is not available any more worldwide.

Recommended Courtney Crapney Autosh!te.

As if!
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #18 on: 22 November 2008, 11:17:47 »

hmm ive often thought about supercharging ill share my thoughts:

a small supercharger could run off the A/C compressor pulley a small supercharger like the EATON E62 the same one as a mini cooper S this would provide a small amount of boost enough for a noticible difference i reckon without destroying the engine!

the 3.2 is a much stronger engine than my 3.0 so you could get more boost through it unlike myn! my only stumbling point is that the inlet manifold would have to be changed to incorporate an intercooler and the s/c etc

my 2nd concern is that all this extra air going in has to get out and ive already seen that the omega has restricted exhaust manifolds so a set of custom one off manifolds would need to be engineered! which is where i reckon there would be big costs!

still i reckon it could be all done for less than £1500! not bad really considering you could have it all set up for tourqe or bhp personally id have myn set up for extra tourqe as my mv6 i reckon is powerful enough
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #19 on: 22 November 2008, 11:48:54 »

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hmm ive often thought about supercharging ill share my thoughts:

a small supercharger could run off the A/C compressor pulley a small supercharger like the EATON E62 the same one as a mini cooper S this would provide a small amount of boost enough for a noticible difference i reckon without destroying the engine!

the 3.2 is a much stronger engine than my 3.0 so you could get more boost through it unlike myn! my only stumbling point is that the inlet manifold would have to be changed to incorporate an intercooler and the s/c etc

my 2nd concern is that all this extra air going in has to get out and ive already seen that the omega has restricted exhaust manifolds so a set of custom one off manifolds would need to be engineered! which is where i reckon there would be big costs!

still i reckon it could be all done for less than £1500! not bad really considering you could have it all set up for tourqe or bhp personally id have myn set up for extra tourqe as my mv6 i reckon is powerful enough

Ive been thinking about using an E62... However my budget is less than £500  ;D
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #20 on: 22 November 2008, 12:14:22 »

you wont get much from a e62 as is desgined for a 1.6  :-?
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #21 on: 22 November 2008, 16:27:58 »

im getting a t25 off someone on uksaabs... might beable to get the uprated rods- seen it somewhere that the rods on the 2.5 are stronger than the 3.0

anyway...
the main difference between turbo and non turbo 3.0 saab is the torque is like massive! which on the omega would be fine
(think it's around 320nm compared to 270 that the 3.0 omega puts out
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #22 on: 22 November 2008, 18:19:49 »

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you wont get much from a e62 as is desgined for a 1.6  :-?


aye it is designed for a 1.6 but its the one steinmetz use!

ngrainqey have you not noticed that the exhaust manifolds cannot be frigged with so you would also need a set of one off manifolds! costing around £1000 for a small engineering works to produce! thats where chavney motorsport had trouble with doing the 3.0 turbos
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #23 on: 22 November 2008, 19:29:16 »

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you wont get much from a e62 as is desgined for a 1.6  :-?


aye it is designed for a 1.6 but its the one steinmetz use!

ngrainqey have you not noticed that the exhaust manifolds cannot be frigged with so you would also need a set of one off manifolds! costing around £1000 for a small engineering works to produce! thats where chavney motorsport had trouble with doing the 3.0 turbos

mabye but i bet its not standard inside it would not shift enough air for a 3.0 straight from a mini ! ::)
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #24 on: 23 November 2008, 00:02:47 »

This is a Stienmetz supercharger.

It doesn't look like that under a mini bonnet does it?







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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #25 on: 23 November 2008, 00:18:48 »

What about swapping this out to make the flow more direct?



And doing something like this...



Stupid amount and very ugly usage of jubilee clips, but you get the point. This is not my car by the way.
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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #26 on: 23 November 2008, 00:30:59 »

And apparently (according to this picture at least) Irmscher did do a V6 turbo conversion.





and what engine is this?

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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #27 on: 23 November 2008, 00:33:41 »

Or just go V8...

Big American lump




Or a full on 1000+bhp Lexus turbo jobbie!



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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #28 on: 23 November 2008, 00:38:25 »

Albrex do an SC too...







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Re: turbo position...
« Reply #29 on: 23 November 2008, 16:45:33 »

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...supercharging can by using a tiny Eaton charger 0.5 bar; Steinmetz do it...

What would that gain you on a 3.2 do you reckon?

Any ideas where I might be able to find out more?

you'd be better searching on the internet for th catera supercharger kit ;)
they do a v6 and v8 version supercharger i think (without checking)
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