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-94 Omega & Cruise problem
« on: 06 November 2008, 13:55:41 »

Hello,
I have a problem fitting cruise control head unit to my -94 X20XEV Omega. Problem is that I don't even find connector wire to cruise head unit wich is under bonnet??  :-/

So do -94 models even have electrial wiring for cruise?

And sorry my bad english, I'm from Finland and my english skills just aren't so good as yours  ;)

A pic below (no wiring at all??), just a place to cruise unit..
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #1 on: 06 November 2008, 14:06:07 »

What spec is your car :question
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #2 on: 06 November 2008, 14:21:52 »

is it the 2.0 8v?

I seam to remember the 8vs did not have the loom in place?  :-/
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #3 on: 06 November 2008, 14:24:41 »

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is it the 2.0 8v?

I seam to remember the 8vs did not have the loom in place?  :-/

No, my car is x20xev= 2.0 16v petrol with manual transmission
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #4 on: 06 November 2008, 14:47:56 »

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is it the 2.0 8v?

I seam to remember the 8vs did not have the loom in place?  :-/

No, my car is x20xev= 2.0 16v petrol with manual transmission
By spec I mean GLS, CD, CDX etc :y
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #5 on: 06 November 2008, 15:12:47 »

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is it the 2.0 8v?

I seam to remember the 8vs did not have the loom in place?  :-/

No, my car is x20xev= 2.0 16v petrol with manual transmission
By spec I mean GLS, CD, CDX etc :y

Sorry, it's GL(S?)  :-[
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #6 on: 06 November 2008, 15:37:04 »

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is it the 2.0 8v?

I seam to remember the 8vs did not have the loom in place?  :-/

No, my car is x20xev= 2.0 16v petrol with manual transmission
By spec I mean GLS, CD, CDX etc :y

Sorry, it's GL(S?)  :-[

Don`t believe the GLS model had the loom for cruise fitted :(
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #7 on: 06 November 2008, 17:00:17 »

Actually in Finland we have only GL and CD-models and I have that GL.

My dad own's other -96 GL 2.0 8v (X20SE) Omega and I found a connector to cruise from my dad's car but not on my own  :-?
And my friend had also Opel Omega 2.0 16v GL and in has car also was option to add cruise  :-?
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #8 on: 19 November 2008, 13:03:44 »

So, because I didn't found wiring loom for cruise from my car I started to fit it to My dad's -96 GL 2.0 8v (X20SE).

I added cruise motor under bonnet and connect wire to thortle body. After that I put new cruise stalk to it's place and clutch switch in place.
After that I go to test drive and  :(.. cruise didn't work.
I don't have any clue why it doesn't work. I have allready check all connections etc.
I also checkked wiring diagrams and I notised that cruise is controlled by a relay K14 on my model. Where is this relay if could check that is it in place.

I hope you understand my language and answer to my questions  ;)

-Joni from cold Finland :)
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #9 on: 20 November 2008, 13:54:06 »

Still help needed!  :-?
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #10 on: 20 November 2008, 22:40:11 »

K14 isn't a relay, but the Cruise Control itself.

I have put a Vectra/Omega Cruise Control in my old Vectra A/Cavalier Mk. III without any problems.
Pictures and drawings can be seen here (sorry, it's in danish)
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #11 on: 21 November 2008, 00:34:25 »

have you fitted the four pin brake switch ?? :-/
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #12 on: 21 November 2008, 13:03:43 »

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have you fitted the four pin brake switch ?? :-/

No, becuse I have only 2wires coming to brake switch. 4pin brake switch is needed only ~from 98->.

Should I just program cruise to ecu with Tech in service??
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #13 on: 21 November 2008, 13:25:15 »

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have you fitted the four pin brake switch ?? :-/

No, becuse I have only 2wires coming to brake switch. 4pin brake switch is needed only ~from 98->.

Should I just program cruise to ecu with Tech in service??
The earlier engines with throttle cables, their ECUs have no concept of cruise control  :-/

If you have access to Tech2, doing a live data read of the Cruise ECU may help
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Re: -94 Omega & Cruise problem
« Reply #14 on: 23 November 2008, 11:54:08 »

Thats right, you don't need a 4pin brake switch. But to keep the two circuits (breaklight and Cruise Control) apart, you should use it.

Here is a couple of things to try out:

Check that you have connected the the Cruise Control wire on the correct pin.  Othervise it vill get +12v all the time = break activate - stop cruise Control.

Try to shortcircuit the clutch switch. should only be disconnected when clutch pedal is pressed.
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