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[Matchless]

If MDTM has fixed his press, I believe he would recommend some Merle bushes pressed in to old wishbones.

We put genuine Vx bushes in mine back in the summer, before the press got destroyed at Newent

Thats a little job for Xmas week.....need some welding therapy  

Did something get damaged at Newent - I can't remember that....

Bob - I went the Merle route and they are fine.  Iggy21uk sourced them (importer in Leeds if I recall) - if you do a search I'm sure you will find the thread.
When I was at WIM Tony said that the last one they did (with Sealey 10T press) was a real dog though - maybe why they don't do it any longer.   I suspect yours will be fine - it was my old ones that did for Mark's press.

Cheers
Ian

Don't worry ians - I blame it on Mr DTM's substandard welding...


[size=14]TB waits for Mr DTM to blame Matchless....[/size]

Matchless blames the cheap wire feed mechanism on his Migmate and wonders if he will ever see his bottle jack again

[gwa]

Most garages will have a press.  My difficult one cost a tenner.    

So as a scenario: If I get 2 wishbones of an OOF scraper or fleabay, buy the new bushes and take it all to local garage they'll re-bush the wishbones for a small fee, is that correct?

[feeutfo]

Most garages will have a press.  My difficult one cost a tenner.    

So as a scenario: If I get 2 wishbones of an OOF scraper or fleabay, buy the new bushes and take it all to local garage they'll re-bush the wishbones for a small fee, is that correct?

Well, in theory yes. Trouble is you need drifts that fit the bushes. I had imagined using a larger socket or some similar item. But when the bushes arrived it was clear that would not work for 2 reasons.
1. the outside edge of the bush is 1mill or so wide iirc so the drift has to be a fraction smaller than than the hole in the wishbone but big enough to not slip into the centre of the bush and rip the rubber.
2 the centre "spacer"set into the rubber sits proud of the outside edge obviously so the drift needs needs to have a suitable hole to allow for this or you risk forceing the centre spacer out of the rubber and again, ripping the rubber.
 Or something like that, ive not used correct drifts so cant tell you how they fit. But i imagine something could be turned on a lathe to give the right fit. Hth.

[PxMetro]

Most garages will have a press.  My difficult one cost a tenner.    

So as a scenario: If I get 2 wishbones of an OOF scraper or fleabay, buy the new bushes and take it all to local garage they'll re-bush the wishbones for a small fee, is that correct?

Well, in theory yes. Trouble is you need drifts that fit the bushes. I had imagined using a larger socket or some similar item. But when the bushes arrived it was clear that would not work for 2 reasons.
1. the outside edge of the bush is 1mill or so wide iirc so the drift has to be a fraction smaller than than the hole in the wishbone but big enough to not slip into the centre of the bush and rip the rubber.
2 the centre "spacer"set into the rubber sits proud of the outside edge obviously so the drift needs needs to have a suitable hole to allow for this or you risk forceing the centre spacer out of the rubber and again, ripping the rubber.
 Or something like that, ive not used correct drifts so cant tell you how they fit. But i imagine something could be turned on a lathe to give the right fit. Hth.

For what it's worth, you mite just as well buy some new, ready assembly wishbones and fit them.
It's a lot of extra hastle to remove the old items, sort out getting the new bushes fitted, before taking them back and fitting to the car.
I fitted some pattern parts about a year ago, and they work perfectly fine. Just be carefull with the linkage for the HID light sensor thingy, as the ball joint can be dry and rusty.

You will have to get the steering geometry checked and adjusted afterwards though, if you are to avoid some interesting handling characteristics.

[feeutfo]

Most garages will have a press.  My difficult one cost a tenner.    

So as a scenario: If I get 2 wishbones of an OOF scraper or fleabay, buy the new bushes and take it all to local garage they'll re-bush the wishbones for a small fee, is that correct?

Well, in theory yes. Trouble is you need drifts that fit the bushes. I had imagined using a larger socket or some similar item. But when the bushes arrived it was clear that would not work for 2 reasons.
1. the outside edge of the bush is 1mill or so wide iirc so the drift has to be a fraction smaller than than the hole in the wishbone but big enough to not slip into the centre of the bush and rip the rubber.
2 the centre "spacer"set into the rubber sits proud of the outside edge obviously so the drift needs needs to have a suitable hole to allow for this or you risk forceing the centre spacer out of the rubber and again, ripping the rubber.
 Or something like that, ive not used correct drifts so cant tell you how they fit. But i imagine something could be turned on a lathe to give the right fit. Hth.

For what it's worth, you mite just as well buy some new, ready assembly wishbones and fit them.
It's a lot of extra hastle to remove the old items, sort out getting the new bushes fitted, before taking them back and fitting to the car.
I fitted some pattern parts about a year ago, and they work perfectly fine. Just be carefull with the linkage for the HID light sensor thingy, as the ball joint can be dry and rusty.

You will have to get the steering geometry checked and adjusted afterwards though, if you are to avoid some interesting handling characteristics.

The idea is to fit better bushes than the standard vx items. If all bushes where equal and all wishbones where only a phew quid more than a set of bushes then obviously you would not bother pressing.

 Bear in mind the cheapest possible wishbones with oe bushes  are 120 a pair. By pressing you own you can have better bushes for 39. The issue wim had is they cant do it quick enough to make it cheaper than buying a new set. Ie 2 hours labour for them is
140 or something like...as Tony(wim) said, not cost effective for the customer.

[gwa]

Thanks guys, thats really useful info.  

[feeutfo]

Thanks guys, thats really useful info.  

Merle bushes fitted to mine, as was recommended by a thread on here, iggy 21 on here knows the contact details. Wish i could find that thread, i want ask Merle if there are slightly harder bushes than the ones i have.

[iggy21uk]

Thanks guys, thats really useful info.  

Merle bushes fitted to mine, as was recommended by a thread on here, iggy 21 on here knows the contact details. Wish i could find that thread, i want ask Merle if there are slightly harder bushes than the ones i have.

Have a look on the Meyle on the website may find HD version ?

http://www.wulfgaertner.com/html/index.php

The bushes I got from the supplier in Leeds was not a stock item

[gwa]

Most garages will have a press.  My difficult one cost a tenner.    

So as a scenario: If I get 2 wishbones of an OOF scraper or fleabay, buy the new bushes and take it all to local garage they'll re-bush the wishbones for a small fee, is that correct?

Well, in theory yes. Trouble is you need drifts that fit the bushes. I had imagined using a larger socket or some similar item. But when the bushes arrived it was clear that would not work for 2 reasons.
1. the outside edge of the bush is 1mill or so wide iirc so the drift has to be a fraction smaller than than the hole in the wishbone but big enough to not slip into the centre of the bush and rip the rubber.
2 the centre "spacer"set into the rubber sits proud of the outside edge obviously so the drift needs needs to have a suitable hole to allow for this or you risk forceing the centre spacer out of the rubber and again, ripping the rubber.
 Or something like that, ive not used correct drifts so cant tell you how they fit. But i imagine something could be turned on a lathe to give the right fit. Hth.

For what it's worth, you mite just as well buy some new, ready assembly wishbones and fit them.
It's a lot of extra hastle to remove the old items, sort out getting the new bushes fitted, before taking them back and fitting to the car.
I fitted some pattern parts about a year ago, and they work perfectly fine. Just be carefull with the linkage for the HID light sensor thingy, as the ball joint can be dry and rusty.

You will have to get the steering geometry checked and adjusted afterwards though, if you are to avoid some interesting handling characteristics.

The idea is to fit better bushes than the standard vx items. If all bushes where equal and all wishbones where only a phew quid more than a set of bushes then obviously you would not bother pressing.

 Bear in mind the cheapest possible wishbones with oe bushes  are 120 a pair. By pressing you own you can have better bushes for 39. The issue wim had is they cant do it quick enough to make it cheaper than buying a new set. Ie 2 hours labour for them is
140 or something like...as Tony(wim) said, not cost effective for the customer.

Where do these come from?

[Marks DTM Calib]

http://www.autovaux.co.uk/LoadPortal.aspx?tabid=3

And you want the Lemforder ones

[gwa]

http://www.autovaux.co.uk/LoadPortal.aspx?tabid=3

And you want the Lemforder ones

Fantastic   Rang up and they are on there way, £60.20 inc VAT and delivery each. Although I asked for Sat AM @ £18. He asked who recommended and I told him you did, so make yourself known next time. Thanks again Mark  

[gwa]

Bl00dy fantastic. Marks DTM recommendation of
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http://www.autovaux.co.uk/LoadPortal.aspx?tabid=3
And you want the Lemforder ones
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The wishbones duly arrived around 08:45, I went over to Serek's (an OOF Member) place around 15:45. After a coffee and a chat we started around 15:30 and by 17:30 all done and dusted, including putting the tools away and cleaning up.

Many many thanks to you all