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Marks DTM Calib

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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #45 on: 08 December 2008, 20:26:25 »

As for this little starting issue....

A few things

1) Is there fuel pressure?
2) Is there a spark?

Also, an old trick for these drive by wire setups.

Get a cable tie and insert it the thin end inbetween the throttle butterfly and housing so it holds the butterfly open a bit.

Re-fit the inlet hose with the fat end of the cable tie trapped outside of the hose....(this stops it being ingested)

Now try strating it....if it is a throttle actuator issue then the engine will now start.
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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #46 on: 08 December 2008, 20:33:51 »

I'll pass this onto the Mechanic in the morning, along with the "Do you know what you are doing regarding live tests" query.
 He was supposed to call with update this evening, his boss rang instead saying he was having a busy day, I, being British, said I understood perfectly and it was OK, then put the phone and shouted at our lass.

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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #47 on: 09 December 2008, 17:50:47 »

Turned up at the garage this afternoon to get an update and was plenty surprised to hear her running for the first time in 5 weeks.
 The mechanic looked over the moon.
Apparantly the fault has something to do with the solenoid that is connected to the fuel injectors. He had the yellow cap off it and wrapped in maskin tape but it was running.
 He just needs to find out if its the solenoid or whatever triggers the solenoid.
 The working theory is that he has broken the solenoid when replacing the ECU.
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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #48 on: 13 December 2008, 09:25:55 »

OK, the car is up an running and driving fine, however the throttle errors still won't clear and there is a cam sensor error. I've asked him to run the live tests, I think he understood what I was talking about (Blind leading the blind :( )

He's not convinced he has the right cam sensor from his supplier. The part number he is being given is -

905-208-50

Can some-one confirm that is the correct part number for a 53 2.2CD Petrol please, if not can you tell me what is the right number.

Error's -
P0120 Throttle Position Sensor
P1120 Pedal Position
P1550 Gen Electronic Throttle


Many thanks
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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #49 on: 13 December 2008, 09:39:09 »

I would not evn contemplate wasting time with anything other than a Vx cam sensor

And I still dont beleave it was the ECU!

There is no solenoid that feeds the fuel injectors!

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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #50 on: 13 December 2008, 10:06:04 »

i agree genuine cam semsor all the way ! too many variables with pattern sensors  :(
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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #51 on: 13 December 2008, 12:46:11 »

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"I would not evn contemplate wasting time with anything other than a Vx cam sensor"

Been back on to the bloke and asked him to source genuine sensors, should have it fitted on Monday.


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There is no solenoid that feeds the fuel injectors!
I get the feeling my garage tolerates rather than welcomes the advice I give them from this site, and when I ask for feedback the answers always sound plausible to the untrained ear, but this is twice I've been told b0llocks by them. I think it may be time to look at a new garage.


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And I still dont beleave it was the ECU!

I have the old ECU, transponder and key chips. Can anyone on here test them? If they work they would be welcome to the parts. I'd need some sort of proof they worked, screen shot of the tech 2 for example so I could ram it up the Dealerships ar$e.



I've got a 300 mile round trip to do on Wednesday/Thursday assuming the cam sensor is sorted, do you think I can risk the trip with the throttle issue still un-resolved? It appears to be running fine.
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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #52 on: 13 December 2008, 12:52:53 »

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I've got a 300 mile round trip to do on Wednesday/Thursday assuming the cam sensor is sorted, do you think I can risk the trip with the throttle issue still un-resolved? It appears to be running fine.
If you are passing one of the Tech2 guardians here (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) on your trip, might be worth detouring for a tech2 session by someone who understands the device.
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« Reply #53 on: 13 December 2008, 13:30:04 »

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I've got a 300 mile round trip to do on Wednesday/Thursday assuming the cam sensor is sorted, do you think I can risk the trip with the throttle issue still un-resolved? It appears to be running fine.
If you are passing one of the Tech2 guardians here (http://theboy.omegaowners.com) on your trip, might be worth detouring for a tech2 session by someone who understands the device.

The trip is Durham to Blackpool, the nearest is Nottingham, about 150 miles out of the way... Marks DTM would you be available to check either Wednesday or Thursday next week?

 I take it from your answer you don't think its a life threatening fault?
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Re: 2.2 CD ECU Woe's
« Reply #54 on: 28 December 2008, 16:02:35 »

Got the car back, and its running very well. He eventually changed the cam sensor to genuine vx part and that resolved issue. He still reckons the ECU was the root cause, I'm not convinced but at least I have the car back.
 £399 in total so no where near as much as I was expecting.

 Thanks to everyone on here that has helped with this issue, hope you all had a great Christmas.
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