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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #30 on: 14 January 2009, 18:47:46 »

I briught it from MutantCav on the forum
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #31 on: 14 January 2009, 20:51:05 »

Well iv sent  MutantCav a pm and still havent heard from him and he is online so i dont know whats going on.All i know is i have a peice of metal just sitting there as i cant fit it without spacers >:( >:( >:(
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #32 on: 14 January 2009, 22:07:38 »

Replied to pm's :) Not been online since early eve yesterday so been catching up :)

10mm drill bit to drill the holes for the spacers...will look to see if the other spacers are here for you...but should be easy to get replacements for the ones you have or have somemade up to the same length as the one you have :)

Was sold cheap on the basis that while the towbar was there and complete I wasnt too sure what might have been missing or how useful the wiring was as I didnt use it myself...although I'm sure there should be another 3 spacers sat somewhere...should be 6 total though, 2 drivers side 4 passengers side...

I'm sure we can get the little bits you need sorted and have you up and running shortly mate  :y

Star Torx bolts are just head bolts I put in the package for you as temp replacements for the 4 missing bolts I think I had mentioned before sending...thought they might come in useful as they are approx the right length size, but figured you would probably go get some replacement bolts from local hardware shop anyway (just trying to be helpful) sorry for the confusion caused :y
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #33 on: 15 January 2009, 08:42:18 »

Thats ok,Was just thinking could u pack them with washers i.e weld washers together somehow then use them as spacers
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #34 on: 15 January 2009, 08:53:06 »

They are just pipe cut to size...would think a hardware store could get some strong enough pipe and cut to the same size as the one you have?
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #35 on: 15 January 2009, 10:18:46 »

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They are just pipe cut to size...would think a hardware store could get some strong enough pipe and cut to the same size as the one you have?

My saloon's haven't been, they've been 1"/25mm round bar drilled with a clearance hole for the 10/12mm bolts.

.... and I've only recently thrown away a Senator towbar & fittings  :(
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #36 on: 15 January 2009, 10:36:57 »

well found a place that sells the spacers they come in a set and there £30 + vat :o .The spacers are 90mm long 16mm wide and the hole that the bolt goes though is 6mm
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #37 on: 15 January 2009, 10:39:53 »

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..... they come in a set and they're £30 + vat :o . .......

You could buy a lot of washers for that kind of money!  :o  :o
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #38 on: 15 January 2009, 10:45:15 »

lol yeh for that set it cost more than the towbar.If i used washers what size would i need
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #40 on: 15 January 2009, 12:38:56 »

I'm not sure homemade spacers/washers are that good an idea .. :(

The towbar has to take quite a lot of force, both horizantally from the weight of the towed vehicle, and vertically from suspension movement and leverage as the towhitch moves up and down. These forces are transmitted to the towhitch mounting points.

Any "incorrect" spacers might a) have the wrong alignement, b) not have the correct strength to handle these forces which could damage the car mounting points and/or the towhitch... the consequences of a failure whilst towing I'll leave to your imagination ... :(
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #41 on: 15 January 2009, 14:09:44 »

i have fitted towbars to my estates before,and from mermory there are 4 spacers 2 each side each side has different lengths. they are made from mild cold rolled steel for strength do you have the make of towbar? i have a friend who works in an enginering place who can make them for you if needs be


and i can drop them off next week when i am down your neck of the woods
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #42 on: 15 January 2009, 14:12:40 »

tow bar is made by tow trust towbars
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #43 on: 15 January 2009, 15:56:45 »

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I'm not sure homemade spacers/washers are that good an idea .. :(

The towbar has to take quite a lot of force, both horizantally from the weight of the towed vehicle, and vertically from suspension movement and leverage as the towhitch moves up and down. These forces are transmitted to the towhitch mounting points.

Any "incorrect" spacers might a) have the wrong alignement, b) not have the correct strength to handle these forces which could damage the car mounting points and/or the towhitch... the consequences of a failure whilst towing I'll leave to your imagination ... :(

The spacers are only so that you can tighten up against the boot floor skin, rather thansquashing the chassis leg/rail.
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Re: fitting a towbar to an estate
« Reply #44 on: 15 January 2009, 16:02:01 »

i dont mind making my own just that i dont wanna be driving along with my box trailer with all my gear in because if it does give away i`ll be kissing away 10k of bikes and parts etc
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