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[theolodian]

What is a good web programming language, environment, program, whatever, to learn?  I want to do more web stuff.  Ideally, I want to learn something (or more than one something) that lets me do advanced beginner to moderately complex stuff.  Basic html won't cut it, and flash sounds really hard to learn.  What's in the middle that's good?

[TheBoy]

What is a good web programming language, environment, program, whatever, to learn?  I want to do more web stuff.  Ideally, I want to learn something (or more than one something) that lets me do advanced beginner to moderately complex stuff.  Basic html won't cut it, and flash sounds really hard to learn.  What's in the middle that's good?

Depends what you want to achieve.

For ease, asp.net for dynamic webs. Downside is it needs Windows IIS webservers. And its Microsoft if you can't handle that sort of stuff.

asp is my current personal favourite. Needs IIS, or expensive add-ons to Apache for Unix servers. There is a freebie, but it can't run the standard vbs type language, so pretty pointless.

php/mysql is the linux low cost equivilient, nowhere near as powerful or easy, but a great combination anyway. Downside, your host needs to allow php, and the versions are not entirely compatible with each other.

Perl. As used extensively on OOF. It sux. One to avoid, unless you want to become chief OOF programmer

[cem_devecioglu]

Hi,
simple vbscript for asp pages is good starting point..After all adding java in line can also will be plus..

but if you think this in prof.style you need to continue with .Net (at least vb branch) and SQL based dbs.

Real applications are mostly dependent on SQL based databases so this is a must also..

also another branch is web design this is more related to graphics..

XP proffesional come with IIS server..Enough for development ..

[theolodian]

cheers guys.  .NET and Java sound like the flexible kind of things that I am looking for.  Fiddled with VB.NET a while back, could get the free version of VS and go from there.

[cem_devecioglu]

I must state here that simple vbscript can work really fast even in weak hardwares.But with .net you need to climb up in the hardware..(and also in the budget)

[TheBoy]

I think the 'Express' freebie versions of .NET can do ASP.NET.

ASP.NET does require more grunt from the webserver. Classic ASP is faster. Classic ASP may be easier if you are familiar with html.

[theolodian]

I think the 'Express' freebie versions of .NET can do ASP.NET.

ASP.NET does require more grunt from the webserver. Classic ASP is faster. Classic ASP may be easier if you are familiar with html.

I don't know enough of any language for it to matter.  I wouldn't prefer to be tied to winblows, but I do want to use something current over something with less future flexibility.

Can it all be done in Java?

[cem_devecioglu]

only java...will have bad taste !!

[JamesV6CDX]

I have played with ASP... not a bad language...

Best part is, plenty of support and code to pinch online...

[TheBoy]

I think the 'Express' freebie versions of .NET can do ASP.NET.

ASP.NET does require more grunt from the webserver. Classic ASP is faster. Classic ASP may be easier if you are familiar with html.

I don't know enough of any language for it to matter.  I wouldn't prefer to be tied to winblows, but I do want to use something current over something with less future flexibility.

Can it all be done in Java?

Java, in all fairness, is a bit too unreliable most of the time.  Java (server side) tends to work best on Solaris servers.