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Paperclip test not working???
« on: 24 February 2009, 17:34:54 »
In recent weeks i have had a number of fault codes appearing  while doing the paperclip.

However today,after changing plugs and leads,cleaning ICV and breather pipes i thought id run another paperclip.

The EML light appears when ignition light is on,but as soon as the paperclip is inserted the EML light extinguishes.I firstly though i might of placed paperclip in wrong position but after double and triple checking,i am doing the test right.

Any ideas?
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #1 on: 24 February 2009, 17:36:48 »
Just check that one of the terminals hadnt backed out of position when you insert the paper clip
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #2 on: 24 February 2009, 17:39:44 »
I have checked the terminals and all seems fine.   ???
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #3 on: 24 February 2009, 17:42:16 »
check fuse f12
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #4 on: 24 February 2009, 17:50:08 »
If the work you have done related to previous codes thrown would it not now be "code-free" hence no flashing of the EML :-/
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #5 on: 24 February 2009, 17:53:42 »
Should EML light not go out though when you turn the ignition on if you have no faults?

In my case the EML light comes on when ignition comes on,but goes out when car is started.

But as soon as the paperclip is inserted,the EML light goes out.

Fuse is ok.
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #6 on: 24 February 2009, 18:00:20 »
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If the work you have done related to previous codes thrown would it not now be "code-free" hence no flashing of the EML :-/

would it not still give 12 to show start  of test?
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #7 on: 24 February 2009, 18:02:32 »
With paperclip in place and engine running,EML light should repeatedly flash code 12,if this isnt happening then something is wrong,afaik.
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #8 on: 24 February 2009, 18:15:33 »
Have you read through this link ??

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687

There are several discriptions of what you may or may not see .. :)
especially this line ...

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Paperclip test
Please note: 2.0l will not work if engine running.

HTH
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #9 on: 24 February 2009, 18:18:03 »
While doing paperclip test previously there is no warning for the "start of test" it is straight into the fault codes.

Should i put paperclip in with engine running?

I was told that paperclip test on my model should be done with engine NOT running.
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #10 on: 24 February 2009, 18:23:06 »
Do the paperclip test with engine NOT running.
You should get the test sequence first which will flash three times then any faults you may have will then flash in sequence, if you have no faults then the eml will flash the test sequence.

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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #11 on: 24 February 2009, 18:29:17 »
Well im well and truly stuck at the moment!

Just a couple of questions:

1. Am i right in thinking that if there are no faults,the EML will light up and then extinguish while ignition is on?

2.Any other reason my paperclip test isnt currently working? Fuse is ok,terminals ok,EML bulb works but goes out as soon as paperclip is inserted.
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #12 on: 24 February 2009, 18:34:02 »
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Well im well and truly stuck at the moment!

Just a couple of questions:

1. Am i right in thinking that if there are no faults,the EML will light up and then extinguish while ignition is on?

No it will still flash 12 over and over (I.E. more than 3 times)

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2.Any other reason my paperclip test isnt currently working? Fuse is ok,terminals ok,EML bulb works but goes out as soon as paperclip is inserted.

Put the paper clip in the 3rd terminal up and then miss 1 terminal (2nd from top) with the ignition OFF then turn the key to number 2 and read the codes.
« Last Edit: 24 February 2009, 18:34:58 by Welung666 »
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #13 on: 24 February 2009, 18:37:05 »
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Well im well and truly stuck at the moment!

Just a couple of questions:

1. Am i right in thinking that if there are no faults,the EML will light up and then extinguish while ignition is on?
2.Any other reason my paperclip test isnt currently working? Fuse is ok,terminals ok,EML bulb works but goes out as soon as paperclip is inserted.

1. Yes
2. Are you shorting the pins 3+5?

Paul  :y

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« Last Edit: 24 February 2009, 18:38:13 by vauxhallomega1 »
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Re: Paperclip test not working???
« Reply #14 on: 24 February 2009, 18:37:20 »
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Well im well and truly stuck at the moment!

Just a couple of questions:

1. Am i right in thinking that if there are no faults,the EML will light up and then extinguish while ignition is on?

No it will still flash 12 over and over (I.E. more than 3 times)

~Im talking about with the paperclip OUT.Does the EML light come on everytime you turn on the ignition and then extinguish before turning over the car?
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