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The camcover is off....
« on: 16 November 2007, 19:03:04 »
Stripped the facelift down tonight

It was instantly apparent that the top idler is shot to bits. Bits of metal filings everywhere, and all the grease from the pulley too was all over the place.

The bottom idler, was almost BLACK, looks like the belt's been rubbing against it?

With crank at TDC, it was clear there had been some belt tooth slippage on both banks.

I'm not sure if this is good news or not, but I've managed to get the crank to 60deg BTDC, and the cams are all rotating.

I plan to fit another belt kit, and turn it by hand to see how it feels. If it feels OK, I will then compression test all the cylinders.

BTW, I'm a bit stuck for something, if anyone can get a timing kit to me tomorrow, I would be over the moon....
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #1 on: 16 November 2007, 19:05:00 »
do we have any idea yet of the amount of slippage ?
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #2 on: 16 November 2007, 19:06:00 »
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do we have any idea yet of the amount of slippage ?

I rekon 4 teeth...
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #3 on: 16 November 2007, 19:06:54 »
Any Pics?
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #4 on: 16 November 2007, 19:07:27 »
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do we have any idea yet of the amount of slippage ?

I rekon 4 teeth...


Ouch.....sounds ominous but if your very very lucky..... :-/

its certainly positive that all 4 cams are rotating...
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #5 on: 16 November 2007, 19:08:41 »
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Any Pics?

No, light was awful, and I was too busy to faff with Camera...
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #6 on: 16 November 2007, 19:46:09 »
Your goosed......cams turning means nothing.....from my experience, 4 teeth is to many.

Were all the cams out by four teeth?
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #7 on: 16 November 2007, 19:50:40 »
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Your goosed......cams turning means nothing.....from my experience, 4 teeth is to many.

Were all the cams out by four teeth?

No, 4 teeth was the worst case scenario.. on the RH inlet cam.
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #8 on: 16 November 2007, 19:55:47 »
Hi James, Hope you get it going OK. Here's something to do with that spare engine you have, a nice winter project   :(

This one runs on LPG so very economical ! ;D ;D ;D see, even space for the doggies !
See http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160178634291&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #9 on: 16 November 2007, 20:00:17 »
What more, a 3.0 V6 has more power than a 3.5 rover V8.....
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #10 on: 16 November 2007, 20:01:34 »
Nice Manifold design!
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Re: The camcover is off....
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What more, a 3.0 V6 has more power than a 3.5 rover V8.....


yeah and ive never understood that.........there only ever seems to be marginal bhp increase on 3.5 or 4.0 v8`s  :-/

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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #12 on: 16 November 2007, 20:16:57 »
More torque....very little more bhp but its down to the VERY poor head design etc.

Anyway James, looks like you need some heads sorting.
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #13 on: 16 November 2007, 20:35:16 »
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More torque....very little more bhp but its down to the VERY poor head design etc.

Anyway James, looks like you need some heads sorting.

I may be wrong - I read on another thread, that the inlet and exhaust can turn away from each other without damage? I may be wrong...
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Re: The camcover is off....
« Reply #14 on: 16 November 2007, 20:49:13 »
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What more, a 3.0 V6 has more power than a 3.5 rover V8.....

Most things have more power than a Rover V8, but they're short of the sound (& a couple or more cylinders)  ;D
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