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[Jim]

Hello,
I just went outside to start the omega on it won't start, the car un-locks ok and the the radio comes on but the car won't start it just keeps turning over and there is a chirping sound coming from under the bonnet around the driver side wider arm area,

Any ideas!!!

[Richard148]

Hello,
I just went outside to start the omega on it won't start, the car un-locks ok and the the radio comes on but the car won't start it just keeps turning over and there is a chirping sound coming from under the bonnet around the driver side wider arm area,

Any ideas!!!

are you getting any relay chatter?

[Kevin Wood]

Chirping sound might well be the power sounder if the battery volts are dropping too low during cranking. Is the battery is good condition?

Battery terminals staying cool when cranking and no loosely crimped cables?

Does the immobiliser light go out or flash during cranking?

Kevin

[Jim]

Chirping sound might well be the power sounder if the battery volts are dropping too low during cranking. Is the battery is good condition?

Battery terminals staying cool when cranking and no loosely crimped cables?

Does the immobiliser light go out or flash during cranking?

Kevin

I'II check it out now, and get back to you

[Jim]

Chirping sound might well be the power sounder if the battery volts are dropping too low during cranking. Is the battery is good condition?

Battery terminals staying cool when cranking and no loosely crimped cables?

Does the immobiliser light go out or flash during cranking?

Kevin

I'II check it out now, and get back to you

The light goes out,

Even 30-40 mins after I tried to start the car, the car is still chirping

[Kevin Wood]

The light goes out,

Even 30-40 mins after I tried to start the car, the car is still chirping

I think the light is supposed to go out IIRC. :-/ It proves the engine ECU is seeing cranking and immobiliser is deactivated.

Might be worth cracking loose the feed union to the fuel rail to see if there's fuel pressure behind it?

Worth checking for any blown fuses.

Then, if no pressure, remove the fuel pump relay, bridge the wider of the two pins at the socket with a bit of wire and see if the fuel pump is heard to run and generates fuel pressure.

Kevin

[Jim]

The light goes out,

Even 30-40 mins after I tried to start the car, the car is still chirping

I think the light is supposed to go out IIRC. :-/ It proves the engine ECU is seeing cranking and immobiliser is deactivated.

Might be worth cracking loose the feed union to the fuel rail to see if there's fuel pressure behind it?

Worth checking for any blown fuses.

Then, if no pressure, remove the fuel pump relay, bridge the wider of the two pins at the socket with a bit of wire and see if the fuel pump is heard to run and generates fuel pressure.

Kevin

I'ii give it a go

[Kevin Wood]

I suppose the chirping is coming from the power sounder and not the DBW throttle? That sometimes makes some odd noises when it is initialised on startup.

Kevin

[Kevin Wood]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to do the pedal trick and see if there are any stored codes either.

Kevin

[Entwood]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to do the pedal trick and see if there are any stored codes either.

Kevin

I was just about to wonder .. Crank sensor ??  Code 19 ?? and a power sounder with failing batteries made worse by the long cranking time

[Jim]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to do the pedal trick and see if there are any stored codes either.

Kevin

I was just about to wonder .. Crank sensor ??  Code 19 ?? and a power sounder with failing batteries made worse by the long cranking time

I'II wait until my wife comes home, and use her car to give the car a jump to see if it is the battery, I used the car yesterday and there was no problems with it.

[VXL V6]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to do the pedal trick and see if there are any stored codes either.

Kevin

I was just about to wonder .. Crank sensor ??  Code 19 ?? and a power sounder with failing batteries made worse by the long cranking time

I'II wait until my wife comes home, and use her car to give the car a jump to see if it is the battery, I used the car yesterday and there was no problems with it.

Don't think it's code 19 on a 3.2, it's 0335 iirc

[Jim]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to do the pedal trick and see if there are any stored codes either.

Kevin

I was just about to wonder .. Crank sensor ??  Code 19 ?? and a power sounder with failing batteries made worse by the long cranking time

I'II wait until my wife comes home, and use her car to give the car a jump to see if it is the battery, I used the car yesterday and there was no problems with it.

Don't think it's code 19 on a 3.2, it's 0335 iirc

Is it the same?

[Entwood]

I guess it wouldn't hurt to do the pedal trick and see if there are any stored codes either.

Kevin

I was just about to wonder .. Crank sensor ??  Code 19 ?? and a power sounder with failing batteries made worse by the long cranking time

I'II wait until my wife comes home, and use her car to give the car a jump to see if it is the battery, I used the car yesterday and there was no problems with it.

Don't think it's code 19 on a 3.2, it's 0335 iirc

My apologies  .. you are right ...  was thinking back to the 2.5 days ... DBW (OBDII) code is 0335

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/

[Jim]

I feel really stupid about this,

I tried starting it again this morning and nothing, so I had a 5 litre petrol can full of petrol and put it in the miggy fuel tank and it started first time, the strange thing was the fuel gauge was only just touching the red and the range said 50 miles so I didn't think it needed fuel, but anyway the cars now running