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Wireless Router
« on: 20 November 2007, 16:54:12 »

I haven't got a clue which one to have :-[  Anyone recommend any?
Seen them with 54mbps,  100 odd mbps :-[
I have been to PC World they have a Belkin G+ that was £109 for £49.99 sounds good but dont know which I need.
Any help please?
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #1 on: 20 November 2007, 16:58:07 »

My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.

Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.

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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #2 on: 20 November 2007, 17:03:38 »

This is a pretty reasonable piece of kit ... nothing spectacular but it works ...

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124784

I use one of these in the main PC

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/81058

and use the USB for the laptop and if any visitors want to connect up. My daughter uses one of these

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/45581

as her ancient laptop only has one USB and she uses that for other things ..

the three parts all talk together very well, and she gets internet access from her bedroom quite easily even though the router is downstairs and some way from her room.

HTH  :)
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #3 on: 20 November 2007, 17:05:14 »

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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.
Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.


Same as mine and i agree excellent.. ;) :y
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #4 on: 20 November 2007, 17:36:25 »

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I haven't got a clue which one to have :-[  Anyone recommend any?
Seen them with 54mbps,  100 odd mbps :-[
I have been to PC World they have a Belkin G+ that was £109 for £49.99 sounds good but dont know which I need.
Any help please?
Daz

Daz, Anything on e-bay?...  Sorry can't help with a freebe,  even though I'm in the trade, only come across the odd wired ones from time to time...

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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #5 on: 20 November 2007, 17:38:27 »

Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.

There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.

.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.

.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.

.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.

A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.

I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).


Clear as mud??   :y
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #6 on: 20 November 2007, 18:45:52 »

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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.

Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.


Lookin on fleabay for one of these, but these are ADSL, is that for a cable connection like NTL or Virgin Media now?
As I have been told they are different? :-[

What about this one then any good? I really have know idea sorry Guys :'(
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Netgear-Cable-DSL-Wireless-Router-MR314_W0QQitemZ150185218165QQihZ005QQcategoryZ101269QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #7 on: 20 November 2007, 18:48:48 »

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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.

Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.


Lookin on fleabay for one of these, but these are ADSL, is that for a cable connection like NTL or Virgin Media now?
As I have been told they are different? :-[

No, that's your broad band connection.

Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) is a form of DSL, a data communications technology that enables faster data transmission over copper telephone lines than a conventional voiceband modem can provide. It does this by utilizing frequencies that are not used by a voice telephone call.  :y :y
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #8 on: 20 November 2007, 18:51:39 »

Hi.... I've run a Belkin Pre-N Router for a couple of years now.... it's really fast and has long range wireless, and it's also a 4 port ethernet router..... just plug your adsl modem into it and you're away!

Nem......  
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« Reply #9 on: 20 November 2007, 18:53:02 »

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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.

There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.

.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.

.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.

.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.

A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.

I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).


Clear as mud??   :y

And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected  ;)

Good informative post  :y

I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router  :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless  ::)


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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #10 on: 20 November 2007, 18:55:01 »

Well if anyone is on Fleabay see if they can find me one cause I am ready smash my computer up ;D

I don't know one from the other... PC World told me I need a Cable one so that the NTL/Virgin Cable will fit into it notthe ADSL one :-[ :-[ :'(
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« Reply #11 on: 20 November 2007, 18:57:33 »

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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.

There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.

.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.

.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.

.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.

A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.

I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).


Clear as mud??   :y

And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected  ;)

Good informative post  :y

I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router  :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless  ::)


Everyone reading this is probably pissing themselves but are you saying if I was downstairs with a Laptop I could print stuff out upstairs? :-/
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Re: Wireless Router
« Reply #12 on: 20 November 2007, 18:59:39 »

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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.

There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.

.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.

.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.

.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.

A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.

I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).


Clear as mud??   :y

And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected  ;)

Good informative post  :y

I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router  :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless  ::)


Everyone reading this is probably pissing themselves but are you saying if I was downstairs with a Laptop I could print stuff out upstairs? :-/
Yes
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« Reply #13 on: 20 November 2007, 18:59:50 »

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My Netgear DG834 4 port router + wireless and modem has been superb.

Dont bother paying extra for the G+ stuff, it only works if your sat on top of the router, as soon as you are any distance from it there is no gain and for surfing the web you wont benefit from it anyway.


Lookin on fleabay for one of these, but these are ADSL, is that for a cable connection like NTL or Virgin Media now?
As I have been told they are different? :-[

What about this one then any good? I really have know idea sorry Guys :'(
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Netgear-Cable-DSL-Wireless-Router-MR314_W0QQitemZ150185218165QQihZ005QQcategoryZ101269QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ahhh ive youve got broadband as oppose to ADSL.......you need just a wireless router.....no modem

Summat like this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-54g-WiFi-Wireless-G-Router_W0QQitemZ160180112018QQihZ006QQcategoryZ44997QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tho i dont vouch for the router.....never tried one.....just an example.....you plug the router into your broadband modem  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 20 November 2007, 19:01:48 »

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Wireless performance is pretty immaterial unless you are connecting to a high speed LAN (Local Area Network). If you are using wireless to connect to broadband then it is unlikely that the Broadband circuit will be running at more than 2Mb - possibly 8Mb if you live in a telephone exchange - therefore the best performance you will ever get is limited by the broadband speed, not the wireless speed.

There are three common standards for wireless, namely IEEE802.11b,g and a.

.11b is the slowest and offers a maximum of 11Mbps - so, in theory, more than enough for broadband internet use.

.11g is similar to .11b and operates in the 2.4GHz band and offers a maximum speed of 54Mbps. Note that speeds are theoretical and depend on how far you are from the wireless device and how much RF interference there is around.

.11a operates in the 5GHz spectrum and is therefore less likely to be affected by interference. It is also less common and more expensive than.11b or .11g. .11a offers speeds of up to 54Mbps.

A new emerging standard .11n is available on some devices - mainly Apple MAC's - and can run as fast as 300Mbps - but when your broadband is only running at 2Mbps, what's the point.

I suggest you go for a cheap .11b device (about a fiver on ebay) or buy a .11g for multiple users. Note that even on a .11g device, if a .11b user connects to it then all devices connected to that wireless access point will revert to .11b speeds unless the AP is dual radio (highly unlikely under £200).


Clear as mud??   :y

And the reason i have mixed mode turned off and 11g only selected  ;)

Good informative post  :y

I use a Linksys WAG354G ver2 with no probs, with laptop and 2 desktops connected via wireless.....Only prob i do get is with a HP OfficeJet printer.....connected to a HP printer server, thats connected to wireless bridge.....I usually have to power cycle the bridge and print server to get wireless connection to work....prints fine then.....then a day/week or so later i have to power cycle em again. Tho nothing to do with the linksys router  :y And probably due to trying to make a printer that wasnt designed to be wireless......wireless  ::)


Everyone reading this is probably pissing themselves but are you saying if I was downstairs with a Laptop I could print stuff out upstairs? :-/

I do  :y Wireless laptop downstairs.....wireless printer setup upstairs  :y

Tho should point out it doesnt have to be wireless.....if it has a LAN connection.....you could plug the printer into the wireless router....as long as the wireless router has LAN ports  :y
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