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[TheBoy]

Personally, I'd get a proper router, and add a proper wireless access point.

I know Mr DTM uses some Netgear piece of junk, and when they work, they are usable.


Somehow, though, I reckon you lot would linch me if I trusted the OOF to the mickey mouse protection offered by virtually all all-in-one wireless routers.  For security reasons I won't say what I use  

Horses for courses......no point in me spending loads on networking when I only have a single computer and occasionaly a laptop and palm connected.

Last router I bought (of the same type I use here on both lines) cost £3.94 inc p&p from ebay.  It actually cost the seller £4.25 in postage alone  

I wouldn't even bother spending that  :-? Just ring up your service provider, tell em you're paying too much for your service and are considering changing. They'll be only too happy to bung you a wireless in the post. Most have improved anyway and the equipment supplied by the provider is likely to be more reliable. Just about all broadband subscriptions are supplied with a wireless router anyway so it's worth a call for nowt.

LOL, only the stupid ones - the Tiscalis etc - will do that...

[davlad22]

errrrrm,

BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.  

[TheBoy]

errrrrm,

BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.  

I suspect dave c pays much less

Home Hub is a great idea, poorly implemented by Alcatel/Thomson, made worse by BT's usual customisations - one of which disables WPA, so WEP only. WEP is and always has been very badly broken - it is very, very insecure, and should not be used.  Stability under stress is another issue with the BT customisation.

[davlad22]

errrrrm,

BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.  

I suspect dave c pays much less

Is he tapping into next door then?   I know for a fact that our home hub is not powerful enough to be picked up from the houses around us. There would have to be someone sitting on our doorstep to pick up any usable signal. For the average joe public, advanced security on a router probably won't make any difference. Obviously if you're running a server it has to be tight but for most families browsing the web there is not likely to be a large security threat. Much better is a decent firewall/antivirus because there'll always be people producing trojans and viruses for windows. For Mr Public it's just more technical headaches to contend with  :-?

[TheBoy]

errrrrm,

BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.  

I suspect dave c pays much less

Is he tapping into next door then?   I know for a fact that our home hub is not powerful enough to be picked up from the houses around us. There would have to be someone sitting on our doorstep to pick up any usable signal. For the average joe public, advanced security on a router probably won't make any difference. Obviously if you're running a server it has to be tight but for most families browsing the web there is not likely to be a large security threat. Much better is a decent firewall/antivirus because there'll always be people producing trojans and viruses for windows. For Mr Public it's just more technical headaches to contend with  :-?

Ah, no.  Decent equipment can stretch that range - laptops aren't ideal for radio transceiving.

And no, forget servers, the danger is the details on your (easily accessable PC), which is pretty much open (WEP is pointless).

Even if the PC is rock solid from security point of view, once another machine is on your network, there is clever software that allows another machine to spoof webservers, such as paypal etc.

Remember, you personal details are much more valuable than anything held on most Internet facing web servers

[TheBoy]

And WPA is equally easy to configure as WEP.

[Dave-C]

Assuming the Canon is networkable, get a USB print server

Hi Jaime, wot's one of them then?

A little beige box, with little men inside running around getting print jobs from network and giving them to the printer...

Technology should have progressed further than that by now... you're kidding me aren't you?  







Pretty sure the Home Hub will do it without, but, nobody seems to know how.. there are 2 USB's on the Hub,,,,  the instructions are as clear as mud...

DC

You, of all people, should realise what a piece of junk Home Hub is!  A so-so product if bought from Alcatel/Thomson or whoever owns Speedtouch now, but knobbled by BT's 'customisations'

Still, I'm guessing you get it free though, so can't argue with that.

It's instead of free shares! £1 all in....  Bt Vision is good too for a quid one off payment.... the recorder is brill..  
DC

[davlad22]

errrrrm,

BT Home hub, BT Vision, 8meg, extra line, reduced rate mobile calls and all the usual decent call options for £15 month. Can't say fairer. Sky are also £19 now with all the goodies.  

I suspect dave c pays much less

Is he tapping into next door then?   I know for a fact that our home hub is not powerful enough to be picked up from the houses around us. There would have to be someone sitting on our doorstep to pick up any usable signal. For the average joe public, advanced security on a router probably won't make any difference. Obviously if you're running a server it has to be tight but for most families browsing the web there is not likely to be a large security threat. Much better is a decent firewall/antivirus because there'll always be people producing trojans and viruses for windows. For Mr Public it's just more technical headaches to contend with  :-?

Ah, no.  Decent equipment can stretch that range - laptops aren't ideal for radio transceiving.

And no, forget servers, the danger is the details on your (easily accessable PC), which is pretty much open (WEP is pointless).

Even if the PC is rock solid from security point of view, once another machine is on your network, there is clever software that allows another machine to spoof webservers, such as paypal etc.

Remember, you personal details are much more valuable than anything held on most Internet facing web servers

Personal details? What personal details?.....nothing much to give away here....i'd rather leave that to the government anyway, who take care of most of my data  

People get fake emails and popups everyday anyway, spoofing particular sites and it amazes me how many people click on them. That's what people need educating in. And yes, most people I speak to have had problems with setting up wireless networks. WEP is good enough to stop someone nicking your bandwidth. Fact is, if you want secure, hardwire the lot, but then, it will NEVER be secure anyway because it's connected to the internet!  :-?

Dave, our BT vision was free and afaik works well.