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bertiecbx550

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ACAS training
« on: 22 November 2007, 09:58:25 »

I`ve gotta do a 2 hr training session before starting my run 2mora with ACAS as far as i`ve learnt its all about having respect for your fellow employee and not shouting across the wharehouse certain words or phrases that might upset or hurt their feelings.... :-? "sticks and stones might break my bones but words will never hurt me!!" i just despair sometimes at what and who runs the comapny i work for!!!
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #1 on: 22 November 2007, 10:19:41 »

It's the same here too, I've been on several such courses...
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #2 on: 22 November 2007, 10:49:11 »

I'm afraid Bertie that this is not always the company's doing but the employees'. Over the past few years we have developed a compensation culture in our work place and companies need to do these things to protect their interests.

The company I used to work for saw their employers liability insurance premium rise from about £15,000 per year to over £300,000 per year in three years. Yes, that's right an increase of £285,000 in three years. This is because of the number of claims from employees over accidents caused throught employee negligence.

Just to put this in context, this was a glass company where we used to cut hundreds of tonnes of glass a week. All employees were issued with PPE to help make their job safer. People refused to wear the PPE and when they got cut they would sue the company for damages, saying that they didn't know that they would get cut.

The only way that the company could counter this culture was to spend yet more money on unnecessary training to tell people that if they didn't wear gloves and the other PPE that was issued then they may get cut.

Disciplinary action was taken against several members of staff for not wearing the PPE that was issued and the union called for industrial action to have the disciplinary action revoked. Saying that it was unfair.

This company has now gone bust with over 400 people losing their jobs. Not because of a lack of work, all factories were operating at very near capacity, but because their costs just became too high.

Add to this the various claims that companies have had for bullying and harrassment from one colleague to another and it is little wonder that companies seem to go over the top with these things.

Of course there is a jobsworth attitude at certain levels in all organisations but most of this is driven by past experience not a desire to waste time which would be better spent in making money for the company.
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #3 on: 22 November 2007, 12:43:05 »

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I'm afraid Bertie that this is not always the company's doing but the employees'. Over the past few years we have developed a compensation culture in our work place and companies need to do these things to protect their interests.

The company I used to work for saw their employers liability insurance premium rise from about £15,000 per year to over £300,000 per year in three years. Yes, that's right an increase of £285,000 in three years. This is because of the number of claims from employees over accidents caused throught emplyoee negligence.

Just to put this in context, this was a glass company where we used to cut hundreds of tonnes of glass a week. All employees were issued with PPE to help make their job safer. People refused to wear the PPE and when they got cut they would sue the company for damages, saying that they didn't know that they would get cut.

The only way that the company could counter this culture was to spend yet more money on unnecessary training to tell people that if they didn't wear gloves and the other PPE that was issued then they may get cut.

Disciplinary action was taken against several members of staff for not wearing the PPE that was issued and the union called for industrial action to have the disciplinary action revoked. Saying that it was unfair.

This company has now gone bust with over 400 people losing their jobs. Not because of a lack of work, all factories were operating at very near capacity, but because their costs just became too high.

Add to this the various claims that companies have had for bullying and harrassment from one colleague to another and it is little wonder that companies seem to go over the top with these things.

Of course there is a jobsworth attitude at certain levels in all organisations but most of this is driven by past experience not a desire to waste time which would be better spent in making money for the company.


Was that the one beginning with Ab?
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #4 on: 22 November 2007, 12:47:30 »

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I'm afraid Bertie that this is not always the company's doing but the employees'. Over the past few years we have developed a compensation culture in our work place and companies need to do these things to protect their interests.

The company I used to work for saw their employers liability insurance premium rise from about £15,000 per year to over £300,000 per year in three years. Yes, that's right an increase of £285,000 in three years. This is because of the number of claims from employees over accidents caused throught emplyoee negligence.

Just to put this in context, this was a glass company where we used to cut hundreds of tonnes of glass a week. All employees were issued with PPE to help make their job safer. People refused to wear the PPE and when they got cut they would sue the company for damages, saying that they didn't know that they would get cut.

The only way that the company could counter this culture was to spend yet more money on unnecessary training to tell people that if they didn't wear gloves and the other PPE that was issued then they may get cut.

Disciplinary action was taken against several members of staff for not wearing the PPE that was issued and the union called for industrial action to have the disciplinary action revoked. Saying that it was unfair.

This company has now gone bust with over 400 people losing their jobs. Not because of a lack of work, all factories were operating at very near capacity, but because their costs just became too high.

Add to this the various claims that companies have had for bullying and harrassment from one colleague to another and it is little wonder that companies seem to go over the top with these things.

Of course there is a jobsworth attitude at certain levels in all organisations but most of this is driven by past experience not a desire to waste time which would be better spent in making money for the company.

Well put.   :y :y
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #5 on: 22 November 2007, 13:09:12 »

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I'm afraid Bertie that this is not always the company's doing but the employees'. Over the past few years we have developed a compensation culture in our work place and companies need to do these things to protect their interests.

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Of course there is a jobsworth attitude at certain levels in all organisations but most of this is driven by past experience not a desire to waste time which would be better spent in making money for the company.


Was that the one beginning with Ab?


Might have been.  ;)
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bertiecbx550

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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #6 on: 22 November 2007, 15:35:52 »

well the training will have to wait as i`m now feeling rough i`m comin down with that bird flu that clarkson had.....   ;D
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #7 on: 22 November 2007, 16:57:21 »

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well the training will have to wait as i`m now feeling rough i`m comin down with that bird flu that clarkson had.....   ;D

As mrs miggy would say, man flu, but they dont understand we do get the flu worse than women, ours hits us bad.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #8 on: 22 November 2007, 17:05:29 »

i know its terrible i`ve had to stay in bed all day...an watch sky and dvds and eat bad foods like bacon an egg double deckers oh and the most terrible hardship is gettin stuck on the temple level of moh rising sun.... ::) ::)
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« Reply #9 on: 22 November 2007, 17:07:18 »

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i know its terrible i`ve had to stay in bed all day...an watch sky and dvds and eat bad foods like bacon an egg double deckers oh and the most terrible hardship is gettin stuck on the temple level of moh rising sun.... ::) ::)

And MINCIES ;D ;D ;D
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Re: ACAS training
« Reply #10 on: 23 November 2007, 01:42:15 »

i have had issues at work with people refusing to ppe so i just took them in the office gave them a writen warning works all the time sorted if they still refuse you could sack them,,,, but only as a last resort if there is a good reason for them ie boots are hurting thery feet then its up to you to sort it i had one lad that i bought 2 set for and they still hurting him so i took him down and made sure they fitted him.oh and he still got a warning for not wearing them as he never reported the problem to me.... :y
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