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Spraying Advice Please.
« on: 10 May 2009, 19:07:07 »

I have totally amazed myself this weekend by carrying out a fantastic repair of my rear wheel arches. Got rid of all the rust, as much as a man can, krurusted, rubbed down perfectly. primed and sprayed...little and often as I now know.

My question is this:  All th paper and tape is off and I'm leaving the paint to dry off for 24 hrs, as per the destructions on the tin.

I'm left with a small line where old meets new and have yet to laquer.

What order should I complete. Wait 24 hrs, polish out the small ridge and then laquer or laquer first, then polish.

Don't want to muff it up now as amazingly, for the first time ever, I think i've done a good job !
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #1 on: 10 May 2009, 19:17:32 »

Personally if you have an edge I would take it off before putting any laquer on.
Forgive me for asking but where and why do you have an edge?
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #2 on: 10 May 2009, 19:21:21 »

Sorry....by saying edge..i mean where the tape was around the spray area. I made a defined "curve" with tape and newspaper about 1 inch from the edge of the wheel arch so that i could incorporate all the rust.

I wasn't sure If i should have allowed the paint to over spray slightly but got scared and have just been left with a VERY  thin ridge/edge between old and new paint.
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #3 on: 10 May 2009, 20:20:01 »

Usually you would blend it in,which really is a job for the pros,and it depends on what paint finish it is.If its metallic paint your not supposed to rub down tillthe laquers on then rub down.
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #4 on: 10 May 2009, 20:28:00 »

OOOOOOOOOOOOO..thank you Mark.

JUST in the nick of time. It IS metallic. Satin Red.

SOOOOOOO...I need to put the laquer on first..wait ANOTHER 24 hrs and then polish things out..Is that right ?
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #5 on: 10 May 2009, 20:31:18 »

Personally, because you have a "Ridge" by your description I would flatten it before lacquering...... But I'm not a pro :y :y :y
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #6 on: 10 May 2009, 20:34:54 »

Allow at least a few days for the paint to dry, then use fine wet and dry with wet soap, rub so to form a feathered edge, apply light cutting paste to finish, wash off and clean, mask area and lacquer. Please then leave this as it is the finished surface "donot use t cut or paste" just a little wax polish after another few days. Job well done.
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #7 on: 10 May 2009, 20:34:59 »

I was worried about using polish on the ridge..worried that it would remove some of the recent new paint.
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #8 on: 10 May 2009, 20:37:37 »

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I was worried about using polish on the ridge..worried that it would remove some of the recent new paint..


It will
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #9 on: 11 May 2009, 08:09:21 »

If you have a ridge you would be better to start again!

Flat the paint repair down and this time do not use masking tape, just overspray your repair onto the old paint and then apply the laquer, making sure the laquer goes beyond the line of colour that you have sprayed.

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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #10 on: 11 May 2009, 08:35:42 »

You need to get rid of ridge first.  Ensure area where overspray will go is well cleaned - use cutting compound.  Once paint well dry ( a couple of days at least) you will find most of the overspray will come off with light application of cutting compound. When all area smooth you can lacquer.
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #11 on: 11 May 2009, 10:09:57 »

The problem is that even if the paint in the can was an exact match for the original, the original paint has been standing out in the sunlight for years and will have changed colour slightly.

Even if you get rid of the ridge and smooth it down beautifully you could still have a clear change of colour where the masking tape was.  This is why you should bleed the colour change over a few inches rather than have a sudden transition between old and new - the eye won't notice a gradual change, but it will notice a sudden change.

Even if you're doing a complete panel, say a door, you should paint a few inches of the panels around it to lose the colour change - I think if the pros are doing a front door, for example, they'll lose the colour change over half the back door and half the front wing.

If you follow the instructions already given by others you should get rid of the physical ridge, but you may be left with a noticeable colour change.  You'll then have to decide if you're going to redo it or whether you can live with it.
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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #12 on: 11 May 2009, 11:09:31 »

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If you have a ridge you would be better to start again!

Flat the paint repair down and this time do not use masking tape, just overspray your repair onto the old paint and then apply the laquer, making sure the laquer goes beyond the line of colour that you have sprayed.


I'd second this advice.

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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #13 on: 11 May 2009, 17:03:28 »

The beauty of Base and Clear (colour and lacquer) is that the base colour will not effected by sunlight and will remain the same shade as the day it was applied.

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Re: Spraying Advice Please.
« Reply #14 on: 11 May 2009, 17:26:34 »

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The beauty of Base and Clear (colour and lacquer) is that the base colour will not effected by sunlight and will remain the same shade as the day it was applied.


true but the laquer yellows over time affecting the colour :y
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