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[Marks DTM Calib]

I cant see it being the heads as the main pressurised oil feeds are on the exhaust side of the heads.

If it was the large nuts that secure the cooler to the cooler plate you would get a water leak, not an oil leak.

As said, spin it over with no plugs in and the relays out for 60 seconds or so to see where its coming from

On this point Mark, what if the threaded section underneath the nut had cracked. The washers pull the union down onto the top of that threaded section but I do know there is a mm or two stuck up so if the crack was in the threaded section oil could escape couldnt it??

Its possible

[feeutfo]

my experience only goes as far and as deep as the oil cooler. I can not see how its possible for oil to escape the cooler without first passing through the coolent bath that it sits in under the cooler cover plate. And if the cooler bolts are sealed and not leaking that would only leave the cooler pipes... and, cam cover gaskits. My experience ends there unfortunately. I would not know where else to look for an oil leak beyond those two items in that area of the engine. If the inside walls of the v are dry, from top edge down from the cam cover gaskit down to the cover plate and oil was forming in the bottom i would be stumped.

As said, sounds like you need to physicaly see where the oil appears from, cranking with plugs out etc.... cant see how it could be anything other than oil cooler pipe/bolts related, or cam covers. As far is i know....

[star_whites]

Well Im begining to wonder if its worth getting another oil cooler to try it out but Im a bit hesitant in paying out £100 + to find out I have a cracked head/block. Anyone got a good second hand one they could sell me on the cheap so I can eliminate it and then if it is it I will splash the cash and hopefully my trade card would have come by then and I will be able to get a discount at last  

[Marks DTM Calib]

Well Im begining to wonder if its worth getting another oil cooler to try it out but Im a bit hesitant in paying out £100 + to find out I have a cracked head/block. Anyone got a good second hand one they could sell me on the cheap so I can eliminate it and then if it is it I will splash the cash and hopefully my trade card would have come by then and I will be able to get a discount at last  

Find the leak first.....pop the inlet off and plugs out and get cranking  

[Marks DTM Calib]

The oil feed is on the inlet side of the head

[star_whites]

The oil feed is on the inlet side of the head

Ok whats the colour coding Mark. Im guessing that blue is water and brown is oil. Whats the red??  

[TheBoy]

The oil feed is on the inlet side of the head

Ok whats the colour coding Mark. Im guessing that blue is water and brown is oil. Whats the red??  

Red is oil feed I believe

[Entwood]

The oil feed is on the inlet side of the head

Ok whats the colour coding Mark. Im guessing that blue is water and brown is oil. Whats the red??  

I believe Red is oil supply (pressure) and Brown is oil return (gravity)

but I could be wrong .....

Edit .. must type faster ..

[Marks DTM Calib]

Correct

Blue - Coolant
Brown - oil return (less than atmospheric pressure)
Red - High pressure oil feed

[star_whites]

OK now you have me thinking.

The way that the oil travels when leaking both down the front and rear and at such a presure I am wondering if it is leaking from the main oil feed. As this is half way down the block and stuck out Im wondering if it was possible for my brother to have sat the lip of the block on top of the grey cooler sealant (as there is a lot of it) and it is forcing it out from there and not the cooler at all which means I have wasted two weeks labour looking for a leak I was never going to find  :-/

I was not here when he refitted the heads so would not have seen him install these.

[Bent valve]

I cant see it being the heads as the main pressurised oil feeds are on the exhaust side of the heads.
If it was the large nuts that secure the cooler to the cooler plate you would get a water leak, not an oil leak.

As said, spin it over with no plugs in and the relays out for 60 seconds or so to see where its coming from

Are you sure the oil feed isnt in the middle  

[star_whites]

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah  

Found the little bugger!!!!!!

Good call Mark, have stripped her down on getting home from work, when the rain stopped and hey presto like u said it turned over much quicker with the plugs removed and produced enough pressure to cause the leak.

Sad thing is you were 100% right and it was the head oil feed. Looking at it, the head is being held up by the grey sealant. At first glance it appears ok but when you give the sealant a pry with a small screwdriver the sealant is wedged under the head causing it to piss all over the place.

Looks like time to order a second head gasket kit and bolts and thats the weekend jobs sorted. Also may stand a chance of my trade card coming as received e-mail confirmation today that it is due to be sent  

Thanks for all the help and advice chaps and hopefully come monday she may be road worthy  

[Marks DTM Calib]

Just get a single head gasket and bolts from Trechii.....

[star_whites]

Just get a single head gasket and bolts from Trechii.....

Whos Trechi?? never heard of them, have they a web site??

[Bent valve]

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah  

Found the little bugger!!!!!!

Good call Mark, have stripped her down on getting home from work, when the rain stopped and hey presto like u said it turned over much quicker with the plugs removed and produced enough pressure to cause the leak.

Sad thing is you were 100% right and it was the head oil feed. Looking at it, the head is being held up by the grey sealant. At first glance it appears ok but when you give the sealant a pry with a small screwdriver the sealant is wedged under the head causing it to piss all over the place.

Looks like time to order a second head gasket kit and bolts and thats the weekend jobs sorted. Also may stand a chance of my trade card coming as received e-mail confirmation today that it is due to be sent  

Thanks for all the help and advice chaps and hopefully come monday she may be road worthy  

Glad to be of help, and the names Mick not Mark