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[Marks DTM Calib]

Mrs TheBoy's dad made a tool for pulling bushes and reinserting them into the swing arms on the back of his Audi - simple affair with threaded rods etc.

If he's still got it (he'd probably stripped it down and reused parts!), I could possibly get a picture so you can see how to make one.

Will make no odds, I have the genuine tool and it wont insert them either

[Dazzler]

Mrs TheBoy's dad made a tool for pulling bushes and reinserting them into the swing arms on the back of his Audi - simple affair with threaded rods etc.

If he's still got it (he'd probably stripped it down and reused parts!), I could possibly get a picture so you can see how to make one.

Will make no odds, I have the genuine tool and it wont insert them either

Then what chance do we have of doing this job

I think mine may need doing soon to

[feeutfo]

what does tis say re removal? I dont have it in front of me. I ask for 2 reasons,
1 i need to get mine out to re fit as said.
2 if a method or tool could be found to remove if they where glued in, we could then glue them and leave to set over night or what ever. A wet glue would allow them to slide in and set holding them fast. How ever this would be useless if they could not be removed later. I did suspect that mine may have had a contact style adhesive holding them in, but on inspection the hole in the arm had no sign, it was spotlessly clean.

[Marks DTM Calib]

As said, its not a problem with removal or insertion....the problem is they are not being inserted fully home and so they slowly work out.

The method I plan to try is to remove the plast and upper rubber. Then place some small bits of wood between the mount and the body work, re-insert the centre bolt and tighten it up.

I will then use a dead blow hammer to shock the rubber whilst tightening the bolt to get it fully home

[Dazzler]

Watching with much interest

[eddie]

Mmmmmmmm! Donuts!   I,ve been watching this one with interest,as I think mine are not too clever.

I remember having a similar job done on a Scorpio (Hatch Granada),it involved using two trolley jacks,one under the car and one under a partly inserted bush lubed with 'fairy'. The jack supporting the car was released and the weight of the car on the bush did the rest.

I was also just wondering if leaving the Bush in the Freezer for 24hrs might help by shrinking it a bit?

eddie.

[feeutfo]

trouble is they need to compress to fit in, which they cant do when frozen. I had a trolly jack under the bush and jacked it up hoping it would go in at one stage. Little did i know, it just lifted the car up in the air, still didnt go in more than half way iirc.

Problem is (as i see it anyway) is the donut is not the same shape as the hole in the arm. The bush (basically) has parallel sides top to bottom. The hole in the arm has parallel sides to about half depth, at which point it tapers in by about 7 mill (at a guess) so, as you press the bush in its fairly easy until it gets half way in, but gets harder as it has to compress its width by a total of 14 mill(or whatever it is) to overcome the taper  in order to seat fully home.

 From Marks description, whats happening is the rubber is gripping/deforming in the tapered part of the hole and not compressing/sliding to the full depth. So when you release the clamp/pressure it forces itself partly out again, sometimes over a period of a couple days, sometimes, if you use silicon grease it squidges out quicker than you can get the clamp (or whatever method) back on again.

I cleaned off the silicon and re fitted, a couple of days later the car felt crap at the back. I checked and forced them in again. They are now in bar a couple of mill or so on the forward facing edge.

Thats how I see it anyway.

My original thread, http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1227822287/13

[VX1]

Well I am hoping to do this when at the York meet so I can do a comprehensive guide on how to do these bushes with photo's.

Paul

[Marks DTM Calib]

Well I am hoping to do this when at the York meet so I can do a comprehensive guide on how to do these bushes with photo's.

Paul

Do I need to bring 'the tool' then?

[Tonka.]

Just an idea! What about the white gunk tyre fitters use?
Nice and slippy and dries afterwards  

[feeutfo]

Just an idea! What about the white gunk tyre fitters use?
Nice and slippy and dries afterwards  

like your thinking.. ..not sure on drying time, would have to be dry before releasing the clamp.

But i think Marks going to force it back in rather than remove and refit.

tyre soap may be worth a try if fitting from scratch. I'm thinking "paint" it on the inner tapered section of the cup only? then insert the bush as is, then leave over night....maybe :-/

ps anyone know the torque settings for the 4 bolts, esp the centre bolt?  

[Tonka.]

Thats it! Tyre soap. Couldn't think of its name for the life of me  

[Marks DTM Calib]

These ideas all have one floor....the fundamental thing we have not managed yet is to get the bushes fully inserted!

[Matchless]

These ideas all have one floor....the fundamental thing we have not managed yet is to get the bushes fully inserted!

I did. Dont know what all the fuss is about.
I do remember lots of bruises and a large persuader though.
And old fashioned solid Fairy.

[Tonka.]

These ideas all have one floor....

Like a bungalow.............

Sorry, couldn't help myself