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Question on brake pads ..
« on: 04 June 2009, 16:22:35 »

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EPC says that the REAR pads are different for ventilated/non-ventilated discs

Trade club site says pads for all models are the same and quotes the non-ventilated reference number.

Stealers are happy to order the them, with the pads for ventilated being far more expensive than non-ventilated.

Now, does this mean that all use the same pads .... or just that only the non-ventilated pads are on TC ???

I have taken the wheels off and now know I have ventilated discs, and am unsure which pads I need .. :(

The ones they gave me 93169001... non-ventilated ... look the same as the ones I've taken off, but don't exist on the EPC

Lastly, the EPC says the kit has the pins and the anti-rattle springs, the box they gave me doesn't have these, and the ones I've taken out are minging, and one anti-rattle spring fell apart.

So, as I'm crap at the EPC ... what should I be getting ...

I think it should be 9195058 (pads) and maybe 4 X 9195055 (pins) plus 2 X 9195056 (springs)

does this make any sense to anyone ??
« Last Edit: 04 June 2009, 16:24:45 by entwood »
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #1 on: 04 June 2009, 16:27:39 »

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Hi

EPC says that the REAR pads are different for ventilated/non-ventilated discs

Trade club site says pads for all models are the same and quotes the non-ventilated reference number.

Stealers are happy to order the them, with the pads for ventilated being far more expensive than non-ventilated.

Now, does this mean that all use the same pads .... or just that only the non-ventilated pads are on TC ???

I have taken the wheels off and now know I have ventilated discs, and am unsure which pads I need .. :(

The ones they gave me ... non-ventilated ... look the same as the ones I've taken off.

Lastly, the EPC says the kit has the pins and the anti-rattle springs, the box they gave me doesn't have these, and the ones I've taken out are minging, and one anti-rattle spring fell apart.

So, as I'm crap at the EPC ... what should I be getting ...

I think it should be 9195058 (pads) and maybe 4 X 9195055 (pins) plus 2 X 9195056 (springs)

does this make any sense to anyone ??

I don't know if this helps Entwood, but last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, No. 093175466, on TC for £75.74 ex-vat (down from £103)

 ;) ;) ;)

Don't know about the rear though! ::) ::)
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #2 on: 04 June 2009, 16:33:12 »

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 last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit,  ......

All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #3 on: 04 June 2009, 16:35:10 »

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Hi

EPC says that the REAR pads are different for ventilated/non-ventilated discs

Trade club site says pads for all models are the same and quotes the non-ventilated reference number.

Stealers are happy to order the them, with the pads for ventilated being far more expensive than non-ventilated.

Now, does this mean that all use the same pads .... or just that only the non-ventilated pads are on TC ???

I have taken the wheels off and now know I have ventilated discs, and am unsure which pads I need .. :(

The ones they gave me ... non-ventilated ... look the same as the ones I've taken off.

Lastly, the EPC says the kit has the pins and the anti-rattle springs, the box they gave me doesn't have these, and the ones I've taken out are minging, and one anti-rattle spring fell apart.

So, as I'm crap at the EPC ... what should I be getting ...

I think it should be 9195058 (pads) and maybe 4 X 9195055 (pins) plus 2 X 9195056 (springs)

does this make any sense to anyone ??

I don't know if this helps Entwood, but last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit, No. 093175466, on TC for £75.74 ex-vat (down from £103)

 ;) ;) ;)

Don't know about the rear though! ::) ::)


Yup .. did those 2 weeks ago ... so the fronts are fine .. its the backs that are causing the problem. Car now sitting with no rear pads in at all, hopefully the stealers will have some pads by 0930 tomorow ... they reckon ..  :-/ :-/ :-/

The big question is .. will they be the right ones....  ???
« Last Edit: 04 June 2009, 16:35:37 by entwood »
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #4 on: 04 June 2009, 16:36:10 »

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 last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit,  ......

All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.

So would that include my 2000 face lift Andy?  I had the wheels off a number of times and serviced the brakes, but cannot remember if the discs are ventilated! ::) ::) ::)  Will be doing them soon. 
« Last Edit: 04 June 2009, 16:36:44 by Lizzie_Zoom »
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #5 on: 04 June 2009, 16:39:31 »

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 last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit,  ......

All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.

So would that include my 2000 face lift Andy?  I had the wheels off a number of times and serviced the brakes, but cannot remember if the discs are ventilated! ::) ::) ::)  Will be doing them soon. 

IIRC MarksDTM said it was cars after 2001  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: 04 June 2009, 16:40:11 »

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 last week I bought the full FRONT brake pad and ventilated discs in one Vx kit,  ......

All Omegas had vented at the front, it was just the late V6's that had vented at the back too.

So would that include my 2000 face lift Andy?  I had the wheels off a number of times and serviced the brakes, but cannot remember if the discs are ventilated! ::) ::) ::)  Will be doing them soon. 

IIRC MarksDTM said it was cars after 2001  ;)

Cheers Andy!! :y :y
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #7 on: 04 June 2009, 16:58:57 »

My 2000 Facelift has solid rears. I know this for sure as I bought replacements 4 weeks ago then found I didnt need them so I have a set of disks and pads sat in the living room.

My Mrs is not happy with me.  :-/
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
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My 2000 Facelift has solid rears. I know this for sure as I bought replacements 4 weeks ago then found I didnt need them so I have a set of disks and pads sat in the living room.

My Mrs is not happy with me.  :-/

Just tell her that the cost of the pads & discs is less than it would be to fill all three of your cars with petrol!!!  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #9 on: 04 June 2009, 17:22:46 »

With unleaded being 100.9 today it costs more to fill the Omega than the pads and disks cost.....
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #10 on: 04 June 2009, 17:25:30 »

Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club

These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.

Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones

We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference

Hope that helps a little

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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #11 on: 04 June 2009, 17:37:47 »

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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club

These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.

Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones

We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference

Hope that helps a little

Andy

just to say, thats exactly what i have, parts man said vented discs take different pads to non vented, so got the vented set,4 pins,2 springs, 4 shims in the box. just as well as the old pins where a mess and both springs broke.

oh yes, came with instructions as well Entwood... ;)
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #12 on: 04 June 2009, 17:43:45 »

andyc & chrisgixer

many thanks to you both ... explains the whole thing nicely ...   :y :y

I'll go for the OE ones tomorrow (hopefully) as the pins and springs really do need replacing. If they can't get them then I'll fit these .. a pop-rivet should fix the broken anti-rattle spring.

At least it will get me mobile !!!   :)

Thanks again :)
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #13 on: 05 June 2009, 11:54:38 »

Phoned the stealers at 9 ... they were in :) so used SWTSMBO car to go and get them, then only took 30 minutes to fit them ... seemed to tale longer to jack the car and do the wheels than it did to do the brakes !!

All working well with new pins, springs and shims  :y :y

Glad I took the old ones off last night and cleaned them all up ready, made this mornings job that much easier.

'Van is half packed ... off about 3 .. see you all Sunday night.

Thanks for all the help  :)
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Re: Question on brake pads ..
« Reply #14 on: 05 June 2009, 18:48:46 »

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Use 9192126 which has now changed to 93169001 @ £11.59 + VAT trade club

These are what GME class as aftermatket pads, are they a different material from the OE pads...i don't know.

Now the OE pads are 9195058 @ £42.80 + VAT and are not on the trade club program. These will also come with the pad fitting kit unlike the aftermarket ones

We, to be honest haven't stocked the OE pads for at least a couple of year as lease companies etc will not pay the difference

Hope that helps a little

Andy

have to say i fitted OE pads 3 years ago which cost a fortune then(£63.88) however since then it has pulled a caravan around spain and france and totalled 34000 miles since they were fitted, checked them last wednesday when changing a wheel bearing, and they are less than half worn!! very little of any brake dust over the rims, have never troubled them no matter how hard i drive it even towing 4 wheeled car transporter loaded with racetrack senny!! Trade pads are lucky to see 20k in my experience, so the next set i need will definetly be the OE ones again!! looks like Lizzy bought the proper ones to!!! :y
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