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KillerWatt

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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #30 on: 17 June 2009, 21:44:06 »

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Thanks KillerWatt, but how do you pass the L-shaped connector, once connected to the pad away from the calliper through the apertur?.  I tried that one and I could not position the calliper over the pads in place with the sensor there. :-/ :-/
I push the plug through the aperture, pull the cable gently as I go so it doesn't fold on itself, and eventually get to the stage where the caliper just slides over the pads.
At that point, I tighten the (sliding) caliper bolts to what I know is right and won't kill me or anybody else (f*ck the torque wrench, when you've done your own brakes for 20+ years then you know what's right).
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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #31 on: 17 June 2009, 21:46:10 »

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Thanks KillerWatt, but how do you pass the L-shaped connector, once connected to the pad away from the calliper through the apertur?.  I tried that one and I could not position the calliper over the pads in place with the sensor there. :-/ :-/
I push the plug through the aperture, pull the cable gently as I go so it doesn't fold on itself, and eventually get to the stage where the caliper just slides over the pads.
At that point, I tighten the (sliding) caliper bolts to what I know is right and won't kill me or anybody else (f*ck the torque wrench, when you've done your own brakes for 20+ years then you know what's right).
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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #32 on: 17 June 2009, 21:49:38 »

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Note that the ceraic peice is not a tight fit, and will move around easily. Getting the things out in one peice after 10,000 miles is more difficult.
As above, push the anti-rattle spring down as far as it will go....and the sensor falls out.

I'm off to do a bong now, because this really is too much like hard work.

Sorry to be a nuisance, but all I am after is an answer to a) the best way to fit the sensor and b) if it is best fitted before or after completing the calliper fit. But I am receiving two versions of the procedure, one a number on here, plus Haynes, recommend, and others the one of fitting to the pad before fitting the calliper. ;) 

As I say I have tried what you are suggesting KillerWatt, but the calliper will not go over the pads in place without being obstructed by the top L of the sensor in place on the inner pad. ::) ::)

I think now I will just try to do it the best way I can using my experience and the advice everyone has kindly given. ;) ;)

Thanks all :y :y :y :y
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KillerWatt

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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #33 on: 17 June 2009, 21:58:09 »

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Sorry to be a nuisance, but all I am after is an answer to a) the best way to fit the sensor and b) if it is best fitted before or after completing the calliper fit. But I am receiving two versions of the procedure, one a number on here, plus Haynes, recommend, and others the one of fitting to the pad before fitting the calliper. ;) 

As I say I have tried what you are suggesting KillerWatt, but the calliper will not go over the pads in place without being obstructed by the top L of the sensor in place on the inner pad. ::) ::)

I think now I will just try to do it the best way I can using my experience and the advice everyone has kindly given. ;) ;)

Thanks all :y :y :y :y
First off Lizzie, if you don't know the answer then you ain't being a pain.

Second, maybe I ain't explaining it well enough....so I'll try again for you.......
Take one of the pads (any one you like).
Place it on the floor (bottom edge down)
Push both ends of the anti rattle spring down as far as you can
Get a second person to drop the sensor in to place
Feed sensor plug through aperture in caliper
Pull enough of the cable through so you can locate pad in caliper bracket without the cable being crushed


At this point, refer to Haynes (assembly is reverse procedure of dismantle).


But seriously, if you are stuck then I will quite happily show you how it's done when I visit the parents in a couple of weeks.

If you are going to continue and try yourself, then stop giving Vx £18 for the sensors, because CAF sell both sides for £9 inc VAT.
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #34 on: 17 June 2009, 22:08:35 »

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Sorry to be a nuisance, but all I am after is an answer to a) the best way to fit the sensor and b) if it is best fitted before or after completing the calliper fit. But I am receiving two versions of the procedure, one a number on here, plus Haynes, recommend, and others the one of fitting to the pad before fitting the calliper. ;) 

As I say I have tried what you are suggesting KillerWatt, but the calliper will not go over the pads in place without being obstructed by the top L of the sensor in place on the inner pad. ::) ::)

I think now I will just try to do it the best way I can using my experience and the advice everyone has kindly given. ;) ;)

Thanks all :y :y :y :y
First off Lizzie, if you don't know the answer then you ain't being a pain.

Second, maybe I ain't explaining it well enough....so I'll try again for you.......
Take one of the pads (any one you like).
Place it on the floor (bottom edge down)
Push both ends of the anti rattle spring down as far as you can
Get a second person to drop the sensor in to place
Feed sensor plug through aperture in caliper
Pull enough of the cable through so you can locate pad in caliper bracket without the cable being crushed


At this point, refer to Haynes (assembly is reverse procedure of dismantle).


But seriously, if you are stuck then I will quite happily show you how it's done when I visit the parents in a couple of weeks.

If you are going to continue and try yourself, then stop giving Vx £18 for the sensors, because CAF sell both sides for £9 inc VAT.

Thanks for all that Killerwatt and your kind offer! :y :y

However, I think I now am understanding how you fit the pad, with sensor attached.  From what you say above you are suggesting that you place the pads into the calliper before dropping the assembly down onto it's base? 

Up to now I understood, and have been doing whenever I have done disc pads in the past, that the pads are fitted to the calliper fixed base unit before then dropping, with sliding, the calliper down to bolt in place. ;) ;) :y :y
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KillerWatt

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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #35 on: 17 June 2009, 22:18:34 »

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However, I think I now am understanding how you fit the pad, with sensor attached.  From what you say above you are suggesting that you place the pads into the calliper before dropping the assembly down onto it's base?
Almost there girl, almost there  ;)

The pads sit in the bracket that the caliper bolts on to (the bracket stays on the hub, you should have only removed the actual caliper), you slide the caliper over the pads (after you have pushed the piston fully home) and hold it in place until you get the bolts back in by a couple of threads or so.
Once you've done that, you tighten the bolts back up.
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Lizzie_Zoom

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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #36 on: 17 June 2009, 22:24:55 »

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However, I think I now am understanding how you fit the pad, with sensor attached.  From what you say above you are suggesting that you place the pads into the calliper before dropping the assembly down onto it's base?
Almost there girl, almost there  ;)

The pads sit in the bracket that the caliper bolts on to (the bracket stays on the hub, you should have only removed the actual caliper), you slide the caliper over the pads (after you have pushed the piston fully home) and hold it in place until you get the bolts back in by a couple of threads or so.
Once you've done that, you tighten the bolts back up.

Yep that is what I do, but as the pads were ok I did not have to push the piston back as I could just slide all into place.  That is when I find the L-shaped sensor head gets in the way, but I now see that is because the piston is not flush to the callipers side ::) ::) ::)

Right, thanks, I now know how the sensor, connected to the pad, can go into the calliper :y :y :y :y
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KillerWatt

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Re: Fitting Brake Sensors
« Reply #37 on: 17 June 2009, 23:31:04 »

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Right, thanks, I now know how the sensor, connected to the pad, can go into the calliper :y :y :y :y
You're welcome Lizzie
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