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Author Topic: 2.0L 16V need more power  (Read 1784 times)

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2.0L 16V need more power
« on: 16 June 2009, 22:45:02 »

Hi guys, I have recently purchased a 1999 (pre-facelift) Omega 2.0 16V CD as a project. At the moment i drive a vectra Sri 130 which i have modded quite a bit but wanted a new challenge.

Anyway as my omega is extremely sluggish in comparisson I am wondering if there is any 'short-cuts' to increase its power (i.e 3 pipe mod and panel filter which can be done to veccie etc). I have never worked on the x20xev engine before so all idea's would be appreciated.
It also drives like a boat so suspension needs to be changed soon so again ideas would be appreciated.

One good thing, this car makes my SRI feel like a go-Kart, lol
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #1 on: 16 June 2009, 22:51:34 »

Not sure what you can do to make it faster mate, no doubt some one will have a couple of ideas. But dont forget your car has now got a good 1600Kg in wieght
so it wont be much faster. Good luck anyway :y
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #2 on: 16 June 2009, 23:01:51 »

Sell and buy a V6

A good V6 is pretty rapid for the size of car, my 2.6 auto is pretty quick, and over the same short uphill stretch of road reaches a speed 13mph higher than a 2.0 auto.
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #3 on: 16 June 2009, 23:02:59 »

Supposed 'Performance' filters reduce the performance of the Omega. Genuine GM filters have a massive surface area.

Not a busting lot you can do, as you need to keep the torque and drivability, as its a heavy car.
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #4 on: 16 June 2009, 23:03:42 »

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Sell and buy a V6

A good V6 is pretty rapid for the size of car, my 2.6 auto is pretty quick, and over the same short uphill stretch of road reaches a speed 13mph higher than a 2.0 auto.
is that all?
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #5 on: 16 June 2009, 23:05:45 »

Thanks for reply,

Eventually (hopefully) this car will be remapped, have an induction kit, exhaust, cams done etc as well as being lowered, body kitted, windows tinted, different front grilles, bigger alloys etc. but I was just wondering if there is a 'quick' route to obtain a little more power for the time being.

Regards
« Last Edit: 16 June 2009, 23:07:53 by cowen1000 »
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #6 on: 16 June 2009, 23:09:03 »

Am I being a little optimistic with this car???
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #7 on: 16 June 2009, 23:11:44 »

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Thanks for reply,

Eventually (hopefully) this car will be remapped, have an induction kit, exhaust, cams done etc as well as being lowered, body kitted, windows tinted, different front grilles, bigger alloys etc. but I was just wondering if there is a 'quick' route to obtain a little more power for the time being.

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Don't bother (unless you want the noise/looks), stick to genuine for performance.  oe filter is, unlike veccy ones, massive and free flowing
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #8 on: 16 June 2009, 23:14:24 »

As I siad I bought this as a project, I do want it to look and feel 'unique', perhaps i'll drop a v6 in there instead :)

It's a hobby of mine 'customising' cars, as I said I have heavily done the vectra, it's almost a 'show car' but i am bored of it so I wanted something bigger and more of a challenge.
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #9 on: 16 June 2009, 23:16:45 »

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Am I being a little optimistic with this car???

IMHO ... just a tad !!!!   :)

It weighs a lot, around 1.7 tonnes, so the power to weight ratio is never going to be that good, regardless of mods. It was built as a long range executive cruiser,  not a boy-racer go faster machine.

Induction kit will increase the noise and do nothing for the performance .. except make it worse .... engines like lots of cold air (high mass NOT volume) .. an induction kit will give you engine bay warm air .. and probably less volume .. so a lot less mass .. so the ECU will cut the fuel to maintain the fuel air ratio (by MASS) ... down goes the performance ...

Exhaust is pretty free flowing for most of its length already .. its the exhaust manifolds that need work .. and that won't be cheap

Cams can be changed for longer duration ..  3.0ltr cams in a 2.5 is a common upgrade .. but for the 2.0 I'm not sure whats available.

The rest of your mods are cosmetic not performance, so unless you strip out a lot of weight .. and I mean a LOT .... your are not going to greatly enhance things.

Now the 3.2 V6 .... even without any work ... is a much nicer engine .... but I'm biased .... a tad ..  :)
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #10 on: 16 June 2009, 23:23:17 »

@Entwood

If everything 'standard' is good, how much increase would having a 'live' remap give it??

Would it be worth it??

How hard would it be to change the lump to a v6??
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #11 on: 16 June 2009, 23:24:14 »

Simply DON'T waste yer money in modding a 2.0L
The 2.0L is vastly underpowered. No matter what you do you'll always end up with an underpowered heavy car. To be honest a chap down the road has a 2.2 and i asked him if he ever wished he'd got a V6. "Every bloody day" was his reply.

V6's are cheap as chips on ebay. Far better to put your "modding money" towards a car with power to start with. I moved to a V6 Omega from a Vectra Sri also..best thing I ever did motoring wise. The sheer power and noise of a floored V6 Omega is a wonder to behold.
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #12 on: 16 June 2009, 23:33:41 »

How hard would it be to change the lump to a v6??
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #13 on: 16 June 2009, 23:39:33 »

Not worth the bother, pretty complicated to do and frustrating...if you want to mod something ditch the 2.0 and get a v6!!
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Re: 2.0L 16V need more power
« Reply #14 on: 16 June 2009, 23:55:52 »

The guys on here are experts regarding the Omega.
They know what they are talking about engine wise for sure.  Realise its a pain as you've just got the 2.0L but just get rid. NO amount of modding the 2.0L is going to make the slightest difference. Induction kits will, as said, kill off what little power you have got already.

There is NO substitute. Get yerself on Ebay and pick up a V6...then the fun REALLY begins.
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