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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #30 on: 16 October 2007, 16:12:20 »

i have spoken to my insurers before buying the kit as i didn't want to get into a position where i had a car that was uninsurable

Their view was so long as the kit is fitted by someone who is professional then there is not an issue, they do not want to see certification, i asked what they define as professional, i was expecting them to say specialist.....nope.....a qualified mechanic

result, my friend who is helping out is qualified, because he knows the quality of my work and the fact that he is helping out so much he is happy to be named on the install, i am still getting it certified though.

One question that has been posed to me: 'is this something an amature can do?'

if you sit and read the spec for fitting gas kits and are able to work within those then yes, it isn't rocket science but with the Omega i would say it requires a bit of planning and thinking about as well as a good understanding of safety. One of the things i mentioned to Mark_DTM last night was the lack of space and the additional pipes/hoses and wiring required, it can provide a few headaches.

Our next issue is the ECU, it is not a small affair and finding somewhere moderatly dry and not too hot could prove to be a bit optomistic

I have been chatting to quite a few installers, many of them are happy to certify for a fee, varies between £75 and £100
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #31 on: 16 October 2007, 17:55:39 »

ECU - next to pollen filter - advisable to make a mounting plate so you can get it in and out easily.

Plumbing - nothing wrong with the petrol route under the car - mounted on a chassis rail by the axle.

I can stick it on ramps and photo if needed.
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #32 on: 16 October 2007, 19:07:57 »

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ECU - next to pollen filter - advisable to make a mounting plate so you can get it in and out easily.

Plumbing - nothing wrong with the petrol route under the car - mounted on a chassis rail by the axle.

I can stick it on ramps and photo if needed.

i was looking at the area to the left of the pollen filter, effectively the middle of the car, its a tight spot and seems to be dryish and cleanish area.

The pipework is going to be run alonside the petrol, i remember seeing yours and figured if it was good enough for petrol then it would be ok for gas as well

got a text from the wife last night 'drum has arrived and its big'  ;D no love it's a tank  ::)

Martin, any pics you want to post up please feel free  :y
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #33 on: 16 October 2007, 19:09:37 »

You need to try it for size - but when you have it right make up a few mounting plates for the other OOF conversions
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #34 on: 16 October 2007, 19:14:36 »

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You need to try it for size - but when you have it right make up a few mounting plates for the other OOF conversions


it will fit, but we are just shaping up the bracket and looking at methods of attaching it to the body, if i can get it to work nicely then i will make up a few and pass them on to others
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« Reply #35 on: 16 October 2007, 19:45:06 »

A plate rather than directly works best :y
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #36 on: 16 October 2007, 20:04:54 »

How did you secure the pipe run from back to front, Martin?

Did you drill new holes and rivet "p" clips on or did you find a way to use the existing fastenings for the new pipe?

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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #37 on: 16 October 2007, 20:06:31 »

the kit comes with a dozen P clips and self cutting screws
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« Reply #38 on: 16 October 2007, 21:16:39 »

Added P clips and screwed into a crease
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #39 on: 21 October 2007, 00:16:17 »

had one of those days where nearly everything has presented issues.

first thing i went off to friends garage to drill and tap the manifold, i knew i had to tap it to 6mm and i wanted to get them as low as possible, this meant putting them on an angle like so


Before i had got this far i had encounted a dumb moment, i knew it had to be a 6mm threaded hole, but then grabbed a 6mm drill bit......


Fortunately there is a machine shop next door and they will be welding up the holes i drilled in error....what a muppet, the session finished well though, all the nozzels havle beed fitted and don't foul the injectors


Having finshed that i decided to move on to the tank, this arrived a few days after the front end kit and so i haven't had a chance to check it out so first thing was a 'stock check' first thing i noticed was the tank straps have been overlooked so this means that the tank couldn't go in today, however this didnt stop me from prepping the tank and fiting the pickup/sender unit


the instructions for the pickup/sender state that i had to fit a pipe tha would act as the 80% cut off, however this is what the unit looks like

 
from the other side


the unit has been fitted but there doesnt seem to be any way of getting the unit to lock out at 80% full.

finally decided to end the day connecting the heater hoses to the vapouriser, having spoke to a few people and looked at a few conversions i decided to take the spur off the heater bridge, this was the line into the vapouriser, the return was to go back to the HBV.

the flow from the heater bridge to the vapouriser was easy, this was nice gentle curve, the issue was the return back to the HBV as it has a sharp 180 degree curve in order to get round this i used part of the original hose


from there it is a case of connecting this to the return hose that comes from the vaporiser, my kit only came with T pieces so i had to use some copper piping to act as a joiner


in order to get this far i had to strip the manifold down to this point

i would always recommend using the tissue paper in each port to stop debris dropping into the engine, sounds really silly but you would be surprise how many people dont bother.

first fit together revealed a leak on the joint with the copper pipe, so strip the plenum off and tighten the hose clips, second time round the car was run up to temp and there was no leakage, ran the car up to the fans kicking in and it all got nice and warm.

Finally decided that the black filler nozzel would stand out, decided that i would have a go at painting it, after a few coats of primer and about 5 coats of top coat it looks like this


all in all a fair weekend, will have to pick the manifold next week after welding, next wekend i will be looking at mounting the injectors and ECU a well as doing a first fit of the tank

 


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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #40 on: 21 October 2007, 00:21:37 »

Nice one, how long do you think until you can flick the switch? :)
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #41 on: 21 October 2007, 00:25:31 »

Currently i am only working Saturdays on the car so things are really slow  >:(

i am hoping that i can get a week or so off and really steam into it, at the worse i would say another 3 or 4 weeks of Saturday onlys, with the price of pertol the sooner the better
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« Reply #42 on: 21 October 2007, 11:16:49 »

So where are these pipes, I can see the return in pipe, but not the other
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #43 on: 21 October 2007, 12:42:12 »

here's one of the flow and return at the engine end, i am getting some more today of the pipework routing
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Re: LPG installation WIP
« Reply #44 on: 21 October 2007, 13:22:39 »

Slightly different to mine. But I think it does the same route
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