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suspension bushes
« on: 21 November 2009, 19:26:47 »

What are the front suspension bushes like to change on a 3.2,as it was an advisory by the mot tester. :-?
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« Reply #1 on: 21 November 2009, 19:29:06 »

Which bushes?
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Re: suspension bushes
« Reply #2 on: 21 November 2009, 19:33:27 »

Dont really know lee,just on the advisory note,and says front suspension bushes.Could it possibly be the wishbone bushes or summat. :-/
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« Reply #3 on: 21 November 2009, 20:03:29 »

It will be wishbone - see Turks thread

do not get buypartsbuy ones
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« Reply #4 on: 21 November 2009, 20:12:59 »

change the wishbones. There is a guide in maintenance section. Pay special attention to the correct bolt torqueing procedure, wheels on the ground suspension loaded.

Beware of cheap pattern parts. Lemforder, £110 a pair delivered from autovaux,  make the originals for vx who add a gm sticker and double the price.

Changing the bushes themselves is a bit of a mare and requires specialist equipment and experience. Very easy to damage them.
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Re: suspension bushes
« Reply #5 on: 21 November 2009, 20:21:03 »

Polybushes ? :)
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« Reply #6 on: 21 November 2009, 20:27:16 »

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change the wishbones. There is a guide in maintenance section. Pay special attention to the correct bolt torqueing procedure, wheels on the ground suspension loaded.

Beware of cheap pattern parts. Lemforder, £110 a pair delivered from autovaux,  make the originals for vx who add a gm sticker and double the price.

Changing the bushes themselves is a bit of a mare and requires specialist equipment and experience. Very easy to damage them.


Hack saw is main tool to fit poly bushes
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Re: suspension bushes
« Reply #7 on: 21 November 2009, 20:27:33 »

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change the wishbones. There is a guide in maintenance section. Pay special attention to the correct bolt torqueing procedure, wheels on the ground suspension loaded.

Beware of cheap pattern parts. Lemforder, £110 a pair delivered from autovaux,  make the originals for vx who add a gm sticker and double the price.

Changing the bushes themselves is a bit of a mare and requires specialist equipment and experience. Very easy to damage them.
Polybushes are easy. I used a blowtorch to burn out the bushes and a hacksaw to cut a slit in the metal sleeve, then prise one end over the other and slide it out. Some bushes have one sleeve others have two. The replacement polybushes push in by hand.    
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« Reply #8 on: 21 November 2009, 20:33:21 »

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Polybushes ? :)
They are available. Harsher ride though. And still a harder job to fit over just swapping new for old wishbones. Doable though.
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« Reply #9 on: 21 November 2009, 20:35:58 »

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change the wishbones. There is a guide in maintenance section. Pay special attention to the correct bolt torqueing procedure, wheels on the ground suspension loaded.

Beware of cheap pattern parts. Lemforder, £110 a pair delivered from autovaux,  make the originals for vx who add a gm sticker and double the price.

Changing the bushes themselves is a bit of a mare and requires specialist equipment and experience. Very easy to damage them.
The replacement polybushes push in by hand.    
Surely not. Wont the arm rotate around the bush and ware prematurely?

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Re: suspension bushes
« Reply #10 on: 21 November 2009, 21:34:11 »

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change the wishbones. There is a guide in maintenance section. Pay special attention to the correct bolt torqueing procedure, wheels on the ground suspension loaded.

Beware of cheap pattern parts. Lemforder, £110 a pair delivered from autovaux,  make the originals for vx who add a gm sticker and double the price.

Changing the bushes themselves is a bit of a mare and requires specialist equipment and experience. Very easy to damage them.
The replacement polybushes push in by hand.    
Surely not. Wont the arm rotate around the bush and ware prematurely?

Slide in easy and Powerflex state they will be the last bushes you fit to the car.  :y
http://www.powerflex.co.uk/faqs.php
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Re: suspension bushes
« Reply #11 on: 21 November 2009, 21:47:52 »

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Polybushes ? :)
They are available. Harsher ride though. And still a harder job to fit over just swapping new for old wishbones. Doable though.
Very slightly firmer, but also tighter steering, and that's no bad thing in my book. 
Did mine on the car. Removed the front bolt and slackened the rear to allow the arm to pivot down. Burnt out the rubber bush and hacksawed out the sleeve, slipped in the polys and bolted it back up. Simples  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 21 November 2009, 22:23:16 »

interesting read. Cant help think i would find them too harsh. For instance i have just re fitted one rear carlton donut bush, with some modification, and can instantly feel extra road rumble. However latteral movement is much improved, and far less tram lining that side. Always going to be a trade off it seems to me, and for a road car i dont want to feel too much of the road.

Having said that, i've not driven a polly car and would be very to see for my self.

However for the op, it looks like they only do the front bush on the wishbone? If both the originals need changing. He will still need to change the wishbone. Do i read that correctly?

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« Reply #13 on: 21 November 2009, 22:46:35 »

From what I gather, the front bushes are the ones that are prone to fail. The rear mini-donut bushes are not an issue.
They also do the front anti-roll bar bushes. Well worth doing them too. They eliminated the vague, floating sensation.
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« Reply #14 on: 22 November 2009, 00:04:36 »

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From what I gather, the front bushes are the ones that are prone to fail. The rear mini-donut bushes are not an issue.
They also do the front anti-roll bar bushes. Well worth doing them too. They eliminated the vague, floating sensation.
The rear bush on the wishbone does fail. Most defo.
Usually shows when the car is jacked, the wishbone drops fully to show the bush twisting. If failed it rips...or shows as a rip or split.

May well look into the front roll bar poly bushes. I was looking the rear ones the other day, bolted to the top of the diff. Looks a pain to changed, if they do them for the rear? Dont suppose fronts are the same for the rear?

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