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what now?
« on: 09 February 2010, 09:59:54 »
yet another problem
car has developed a coughing/spluttering when driving AND when stationary thing is when the engine is warm after 5 or 10 mins it seems to dissapear.
Had new plugs a while ago have not run low on fuel so no dirt in fuel system no codes showing and had crank sensor a while ago too.
Any ideas guys
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Re: what now?
« Reply #1 on: 09 February 2010, 10:05:00 »
check the plugs for any oil / water
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Re: what now?
« Reply #2 on: 09 February 2010, 11:27:07 »
After checking plugs/leads other common things include maf sensor and dis pak.
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« Reply #3 on: 09 February 2010, 12:11:22 »
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check the plugs for any oil / water

That would be first job, check the HT lead boots for splits/cracks while you're at it :y
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« Reply #4 on: 09 February 2010, 12:37:02 »
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check the plugs for any oil / water

That would be first job, check the HT lead boots for splits/cracks while you're at it :y
Like when mine split you mean lee. ::) ;)
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« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2010, 12:38:34 »
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check the plugs for any oil / water

That would be first job, check the HT lead boots for splits/cracks while you're at it :y
Like when mine split you mean lee. ::) ;)

Yes, just like yours Mark ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #6 on: 09 February 2010, 12:41:57 »
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check the plugs for any oil / water

That would be first job, check the HT lead boots for splits/cracks while you're at it :y
Like when mine split you mean lee. ::) ;)

Yes, just like yours Mark ;D ;D ;D
;D Still gooin strong though lee with that rubber tap swirl on ::)
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« Reply #7 on: 10 February 2010, 11:45:05 »
Right a slight result today have found a garage (father and son) who have over 40 years experience as mechanics at a Vauxhall dealers they have tech2 machine and everything.
Anyway have been told its definately a missfire problem so it will be either the plug leads or diss pack.
Also was told not to bother cleaning the ICV as this wouldnt cause a misfire but more a cutting out alltogether senario.
So guys question is how would you go about it buy and replace just the leads (£38) and see what occurs or buy and replace the diss pack as well (£75) just incase that fails in the future and while i have the access to it moneys tight so any thoughts would help.
Forgot to mention apparently there are FIVE different diss packs and need the numbers off mine so what is the easiest way of doing that or is it a case of having to take the old one off to get the numbers so i may as well replace it anyway.
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Re: what now?
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2010, 11:46:42 »
you can get diss packs off flea bay for less than £75 brand new
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Re: what now?
« Reply #9 on: 10 February 2010, 11:50:50 »
cant seem to see one for a facelift tho.
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Re: what now?
« Reply #10 on: 10 February 2010, 11:53:23 »
as the great one often reminds us, don't go changing parts unless they are proven to have failed.

Did they actually check the plugs for oil / water?

Have you identified which bank / pot is miss-firing?

I'd stick some fresh plugs in there first, then try and find which pot is miss-firing, then swap HT leads around to see if the fault transfers to another pot, before you go buying a replacement dis pack
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« Reply #11 on: 10 February 2010, 11:56:23 »
As long as it is an X25XE engine then prefacelift diss packs fit you just need to check the connector as there are a few different ones.The easiest way to check is to dis-connect the maf sensor plug and have a look at the socket shape.Then you could get something like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-VECTRA-V6-IGNITION-COIL-PACK-OVAL-PLUG_W0QQitemZ300383682405QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45f0433f65
I hope that helps. :y
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« Reply #12 on: 10 February 2010, 11:59:49 »
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Right a slight result today have found a garage (father and son) who have over 40 years experience as mechanics at a Vauxhall dealers they have tech2 machine and everything.
Anyway have been told its definately a missfire problem so it will be either the plug leads or diss pack.
Also was told not to bother cleaning the ICV as this wouldnt cause a misfire but more a cutting out alltogether senario.
So guys question is how would you go about it buy and replace just the leads (£38) and see what occurs or buy and replace the diss pack as well (£75) just incase that fails in the future and while i have the access to it moneys tight so any thoughts would help.
Forgot to mention apparently there are FIVE different diss packs and need the numbers off mine so what is the easiest way of doing that or is it a case of having to take the old one off to get the numbers so i may as well replace it anyway.

Obviously spent all thier time doing MOT's then

There are 3 types of DIS pack.....
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Re: what now?
« Reply #13 on: 10 February 2010, 12:00:42 »
I should add that given the age of your car....it will be the later Horizontal one with the oval plug shape.
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« Reply #14 on: 10 February 2010, 12:04:33 »
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I should add that given the age of your car....it will be the later Horizontal one with the oval plug shape.

Thanks for the clarification Mark
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