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[fingers21]

I had my front wheels balanced yesterday, still got a wobble, so had the rears balanced today and a new steering idler fitted (i couldn't get it off for love nor money!) now i have a steering wobble pretty much all the time and shakes like buggery under gentle braking from about 50mph-30mph, after that, it stops. What is the next thing to check please, as its driving me mad!

[Lazydocker]

Assuming the wishbones are ok (which I'm sure you'll have checked and are unlikely to give those exact symptoms) I'd be checking discs for warping or more likely, get the wheels balanced again (somewhere else)

[manny]

I had this problem on another car. it was warped brake discs.

[fingers21]

wishbones appear fine, no bump noises either, even with big pot holes! (why do we pay road tax again??!!) i thought possibly discs, as they are pretty worn, anyone know of a good place to get some? preferably at a budget price.

[Lazydocker]

wishbones appear fine, no bump noises either, even with big pot holes! (why do we pay road tax again??!!) i thought possibly discs, as they are pretty worn, anyone know of a good place to get some? preferably at a budget price.

IIRCC Vx TC do a good deal. :-/ :-/

[alexandjen]

wishbones appear fine, no bump noises either, even with big pot holes! (why do we pay road tax again??!!) i thought possibly discs, as they are pretty worn, anyone know of a good place to get some? preferably at a budget price.

IIRCC Vx TC do a good deal. :-/ :-/

Brake disc & pad kits, front (axle set)
All models exc. 2.0 to '97 - 93175466
Trade Club - £78.68 +vat

[tunnie]

check the disc's, autos tend to warp them more than manuals, as you keep your foot on the brake at lights / junctions, after some 'entertaining' driving, with the brakes hot, it warps the disc

[Entwood]

Disks very rarely "warp" .. but the effect of what tunnie says ... keeping the pad applied to a hot disc ... causes a local change in the structure of the disk ... have a read here ...

http://www.powerbrake.co.za/downloads/tech_01_judder.pdf

especially page 3   which starts ...

Once you have the development of DTV the surface of the disc will begin to heat unevenly.
The high spots will get extremely hot compared to the rest of the disc. When the temperature around these
high spots reaches 650 – 700°C. the cast iron in that area will change structurally and transform into a
material called Cementite. Cementite is far harder than the cast iron of the unaffected parts of the disc and
will therefore wear considerably less as the disc wears down with use. Cementite also has very poor heat
sink properties and will therefore continue to run extremely hot resulting in the rapid spread of the
Cementite formation deeper and deeper into the disc. As a result the DTV will get progressively worse with
time until it becomes literally unbearable to use the brakes. Depending on the pads used and the driving
style of the vehicle owner this process could take 1000 – 6000 kilometres to develop and, NO, the initial
run-out will not necessarily be felt by the driver. Hence the confusion and clinging to the concept of brake
discs “warping”.

and page 6

Whenever possible you should try not to come to a complete stop and leave your foot on the brake pedal
when your discs are very hot. Of course it is no problem to leave the brakes applied at intersections etc.
during normal urban driving because the brakes are not excessively hot under these conditions. Discs will
be very hot after heavy consecutive braking or a long brake application from high speed. Leaving the brake
pads clamped to a very hot disc will lead to ‘pad etching’ or ‘pad welding’ in which friction material from
the pads will be unevenly deposited on the disc surface at the point of contact. This can lead to DTV and
will often be visible to the eye as the outline of a brake pad on the surface of the disc.

Its a longish article ... 8 pages .. but worth reading

[fingers21]

Oops, i have to say, i'm a bugger for keeping my foot on the brake pedal at lights etc! You learn something new everyday, not something i even thought of, i now have a habit to break! what is VX tc?

[tunnie]

Oops, i have to say, i'm a bugger for keeping my foot on the brake pedal at lights etc! You learn something new everyday, not something i even thought of, i now have a habit to break! what is VX tc?

I do as well, its fine on normal driving. Its after you have been giving it the beans does it cause issues.

Vauxhall Trade Club

[fingers21]

is that the shop link at the top of the page? Thats a good price, but i couldn't find much in there.

[Entwood]

Vauxhall Trade Club ....  costs £20 a year to join via autobahnstormers and gives special prices on "service" items from participating dealers.

You can save your £20 on the first visit ......

Vx semisynthetic oil 10W/40 is £25.90 + VAT (£30.43)  for 5 litres retail

On TC it is on a special of 4 for the price of 3  .. so for £32.67 + VAT (£38.39)  you get 20 litres ... which would cost you £121.72 !!

A saving of £83.33 on your first purchase !!


You'll save about £30 + VAT on a front disc/pad set ..

[tunnie]

is that the shop link at the top of the page? Thats a good price, but i couldn't find much in there.

No.

Thats a private shop owned and run by OOF.

TC is a Vauxhall run club for people 'in the trade' you have to register for it from a dealer. Alternative is join Autobahnstormers forum (ABS) that gives you trade prices at Vx (costs £20(?) per year to join

[Lazydocker]

Or give andyc a PM... He's at Drive Vauxhall in Bury St Edmunds and will do you TC prices 

He's also a nice chap and will go out of his way to help out

[alexandjen]

Or give andyc a PM... He's at Drive Vauxhall in Bury St Edmunds and will do you TC prices 

He's also a nice chap and will go out of his way to help out

Assistant Parts Manager, Drive Vauxhall, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk. 01284 777254.
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