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help needed 2.0 16v
« on: 06 February 2010, 17:49:23 »

Hi to all   newbi here have prob with my omega 2.0 16v got alot of white/light grey smoke/steam from exhaust and also steam/smoke from dipstick and oil filler cap when off water is clean do not nead to top up and no excessive pressure in system.Hope someone can help
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #1 on: 06 February 2010, 18:14:10 »

Sorry mate but sounds like mine was a couple of months ago...... Head gasket gone... :-[
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #2 on: 06 February 2010, 18:24:28 »

def sounds like head gasket, easy to sort out try this full kit http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200431319228 fit 20l and 2.2l £31.50 full price and p&p :y
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #3 on: 06 February 2010, 18:30:52 »

If you really aren't losing any coolant, it can't be headgasket, IMO.

To reassure yourself, take the sparkplugs out (having mopped out any and all oil/water from around them before removing. Then shine a bright torch down into the cylinders and look for any coolant sitting on top of any of the piston crowns.  If they all look bone dry, that would be good.

The steam/oil mist coming out of the dipstick tube and oil filler may be a symptom of blocked camcover breathers, have a look at this "How To" by Grumpy
to sort this out: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1194007453

BTW, steam from the exhaust is quite normal, just more easily seen in the cold weather than during the rest of the year.  Burning hydrocarbons makes water/steam and carbon dioxide, mostly.

Best of luck.  :y
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #4 on: 06 February 2010, 21:12:33 »

As above, give it a good clean up per Grumpy and see how it goes.  It will likely to it a power of good and costs next to nothing but a bit of time.
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #5 on: 07 February 2010, 12:41:05 »

thanks guys
will check that out was a bit confused by it not loseing water ,not useing loads of oil and no excessive pressure in water lets hope its just breather pipes .one thing i forgot to mention exhaust note sounds a bit louder does this have any bearing on subject

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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #6 on: 07 February 2010, 12:55:18 »

may just be water in the exhaust, mine did it this morning and its water not been out for a few days and there has been a lot of mist. :y
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #7 on: 10 February 2010, 18:41:11 »

Haven't forgotten you guys cleaning breather pipes on weekend will let you know how it works out Thanks for advice and especially the link by grumpy told to me by abiton and ians thanks guys makes that so easier to do when you know what to look for  [smiley=dankk2.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2010, 20:54:37 »

If it does turn out to be H/G failure, please DO NOT waste your money buying gasket sets off e-gay or any other 'iffy' scource. Buy ALL your gaskets directly from a VX Dealer. Believe me, i'm half way through a head gasket job right now, & am held up waiting for genuine parts arriving after unpacking my e-gay 'bargain' & finding the quality is shite & some gaskets do not fit at all! BTW, have you smelled the coolant in the bottle for petrol/exhaust fumes?HTH  :y
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #9 on: 10 February 2010, 21:09:36 »

hi  i pulled off the small breather pipe this evening and there is no suction when you put finger on end as it says in grumpy's link and slight idle increase/decrease and hesitation noticed today  will bear in mind gaskett sets quality as rusty95 suggested a set on ebay
cheers ian :y :y
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #10 on: 11 February 2010, 00:21:50 »


Hi, I'm new here myself and my 2.0 16v exhibits the same symptoms until it warms up properly. Its a '99 with 152.000 miles on the clock and engine seems to be fine!  (touch wood!!!!)  :)
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #11 on: 11 February 2010, 15:05:14 »

That sounds like theres hope for me(or the car i mean ) ill find out sat am   :y :y
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #12 on: 13 February 2010, 18:55:54 »

right then
Took off breather pipes and cleaned them.Took off throttle housing and cleaned seperated IACV cleaned it as well.Took off restricted joint that passes through banjo joint it was blocked cleaned it.Took off cam cover to clean spiggots that breather pipes go on, didn't want debri to into head.Renewed cam cover gaskett and "O" ring seals.Abig difference to the amount of fumes in cam cover none from dipstick. :D
Now here's a ?
The large breather pipe on left side of cam cover has a filter spliced into it with a smaller 8mm pipe coming off the top of filter going to a "T" piece.Short piece of pipe to fuel pressure regulator and very thin pipe to throttle housing body is this a revision by vauxhall or somthing someone has add? I have looked at haynes and seen pictures on OOF but have not seen this set up.Any idea's any one :-/ :-/ :-/ 
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #13 on: 13 February 2010, 19:11:58 »

Quote
right then
Took off breather pipes and cleaned them.Took off throttle housing and cleaned seperated IACV cleaned it as well.Took off restricted joint that passes through banjo joint it was blocked cleaned it.Took off cam cover to clean spiggots that breather pipes go on, didn't want debri to into head.Renewed cam cover gaskett and "O" ring seals.Abig difference to the amount of fumes in cam cover none from dipstick. :D
Now here's a ?
The large breather pipe on left side of cam cover has a filter spliced into it with a smaller 8mm pipe coming off the top of filter going to a "T" piece.Short piece of pipe to fuel pressure regulator and very thin pipe to throttle housing body is this a revision by vauxhall or somthing someone has add? I have looked at haynes and seen pictures on OOF but have not seen this set up.Any idea's any one :-/ :-/ :-/ 

That sounds like a 'mod'/bodge by a previous owner, and not necessarily a very wise one.  I'm pretty certain that the vac feed to the fuel pressure reg. is supposed to come straight from the throttle body.  I've heard of putting a filter in the small breather hose to try to prevent the little jet clogging, but not in the big one.
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Re: help needed 2.0 16v
« Reply #14 on: 13 February 2010, 19:22:08 »

I thought it was a bit odd cos it would affect vacuum power to the regulator??.Does that mean the very thin pipe connected to the throttle housing goes straight to fuel regulator ??
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