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Still not going my way
« on: 26 February 2010, 21:38:12 »

Well as some of you guys know i was having trouble with bleeding my cooling system up so after it now being weeks and weeks since i have been able to use the car with one thing then another (waiting for parts so on) i got p****ed of with getting no where with the cooling system that i booked in at the garage to do cause i thought it must be somthing i'm doing wrong anyway they have told me it looks like the heater pump that goes under the top hose of the rad is faulty there is no power to it and its not working when 12v is put to it.....I never even knew what that was let alone what it does any body any ideas or had trouble with this in the haynes manual it says its an auxiliary coolant pump?? Good news is that i have bled up the coolant system o.k with no air locks apparently.. :y
I'm not impressed with this any more at all. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Still not going my way
« Reply #1 on: 26 February 2010, 21:43:53 »

aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/
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« Reply #2 on: 26 February 2010, 21:48:24 »

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aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/

Please tell me your not saying that this is not my problem and i still have not found out why this thing still not working right. :-/ :-/ :-/
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« Reply #3 on: 26 February 2010, 21:51:03 »

Don't suppose you or anyone else has a part number for this so i can get a look at it only the cars still at the garage and i'm in work so i carn't get to my e.p.c. :y
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« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2010, 21:52:09 »

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aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/

Please tell me your not saying that this is not my problem and i still have not found out why this thing still not working right. :-/ :-/ :-/

Missed your earlier threads so not sure what problems you had bleeding the coolant system?

Red tap bottom of the rad will drain most of the coolant, if that is damaged/seized, then there is always bottom pipe drivers side to the main rad.

What problems have you been having?  :-/
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« Reply #5 on: 26 February 2010, 22:02:02 »

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aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/

Please tell me your not saying that this is not my problem and i still have not found out why this thing still not working right. :-/ :-/ :-/

Missed your earlier threads so not sure what problems you had bleeding the coolant system?

Red tap bottom of the rad will drain most of the coolant, if that is damaged/seized, then there is always bottom pipe drivers side to the main rad.

What problems have you been having?  :-/

Where do i start when i first refilled the coolant system the temp in the car was on luke warm and when you rev'ed up it got hot and the fans were kicking in at 92 and half on the temp gauge...So i manual filled the heater matrix and that seemed to work it got warm in the car and the fans kicked in at the temp you said it should which was 95/96 on the gauge but then i had to drain some of the water out so i could put the coolant in and the same thing has happened angain but this time i have manual filled and bled the heater matrix and refilled the coolant system more times than i care to think about and i have not been able to get it sorted thats when i sent it in to the garage.  I have now not been using the car since before crimbo getting so p****ed off with it that i'm think of a change but i do have alot of sentimental attachment to this car. :-[ :-[
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Re: Still not going my way
« Reply #6 on: 26 February 2010, 23:33:46 »

sounds like a blockage or air lock in the heater matrix, take both pipes off and stick a hose in there, and flush it through.

Then re-fill with nice 50/50 mix with anti-freeze, in this weather you don't want to be running on pure water
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« Reply #7 on: 27 February 2010, 03:21:35 »

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sounds like a blockage or air lock in the heater matrix, take both pipes off and stick a hose in there, and flush it through.

Then re-fill with nice 50/50 mix with anti-freeze, in this weather you don't want to be running on pure water

Thats what i have done more times than i care to think about thats why it ended up in the garage cause i thought i was doing this wrong but i'm not the guys at the garage said its all beld up right?????
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Re: Still not going my way
« Reply #8 on: 27 February 2010, 08:35:35 »

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aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/

Different pump Tunnie. The winter pack pump is on the driver's side inner wing, around where the mechanical cruise is/would be fitted. The pump on the rad is there to distribute hot coolant around the system when the car stops to prevent loccalised hot spots.  :y
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Re: Still not going my way
« Reply #9 on: 27 February 2010, 08:39:45 »

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 they have told me it looks like the heater pump that goes under the top hose of the rad is faulty there is no power to it and its not working when 12v is put to it.....I never even knew what that was let alone what it does any body any ideas or had trouble with this in the haynes manual it says its an auxiliary coolant pump??  ......

Lack of pump isn't going to affect the day to day running of the car. As said above, it will only run when the car is hot - generally in hot weather - to distribute hot coolant around the sytem when you stop the car. The fans will continue to run at the same time.
Have you had the hose run through your heater matrix? Not the easiest of places to get to I know, but worth a shot.  :y
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« Reply #10 on: 27 February 2010, 20:03:58 »

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 they have told me it looks like the heater pump that goes under the top hose of the rad is faulty there is no power to it and its not working when 12v is put to it.....I never even knew what that was let alone what it does any body any ideas or had trouble with this in the haynes manual it says its an auxiliary coolant pump??  ......

Lack of pump isn't going to affect the day to day running of the car. As said above, it will only run when the car is hot - generally in hot weather - to distribute hot coolant around the sytem when you stop the car. The fans will continue to run at the same time.
Have you had the hose run through your heater matrix? Not the easiest of places to get to I know, but worth a shot.  :y

Hi andy,
Yes mate i have had the hose run through the heater matrix like i said above mate more times than i care to think about just keeps doing the same thing fans kick in at 92.5 on the temp gauge and the heaters are only luke warm....Gonna pop up to the breakers and see if i can get one of these pumps...Although it does not effect the day to day running in this bloody weather with no heaters is reel pain the backside cause not only will i not keep warm but i carn't get the windscreen clear and i was getting ice on the inside...... :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
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« Reply #11 on: 27 February 2010, 20:11:36 »

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aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/

Different pump Tunnie. The winter pack pump is on the driver's side inner wing, around where the mechanical cruise is/would be fitted. The pump on the rad is there to distribute hot coolant around the system when the car stops to prevent loccalised hot spots.  :y

Cheers, stand corrected  :y

The pump he has on the rad, was that a GM add-on or third party?  :-/
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« Reply #12 on: 27 February 2010, 20:14:04 »

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aux coolant pump was part of the 'winter pack' helped the engine temp get to normal quicker. You can do without it i would think  :-/

Different pump Tunnie. The winter pack pump is on the driver's side inner wing, around where the mechanical cruise is/would be fitted. The pump on the rad is there to distribute hot coolant around the system when the car stops to prevent loccalised hot spots.  :y

Cheers, stand corrected  :y

The pump he has on the rad, was that a GM add-on or third party?  :-/

The pump on the rad is G.M part number is 90448286 Bosch part number 0392 020 034.
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Re: Still not going my way
« Reply #13 on: 28 February 2010, 22:20:08 »

Can anyone with the same pump on there omega do me a big favour and measure the voltage on the plug to it please just so i know what voltage should be their and if its their all the time or just when the fans come on. Thanks in advance. :y :y
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Re: Still not going my way
« Reply #14 on: 05 March 2010, 06:36:19 »

Well got a known working pump from breakers and fitted that not got any voltage at the plug connector but there is volatge at the relay and the relay is working have tested it at work on a power supply.  When i fitted the pump i refilled the heater matrix again manually and then refilled the rest of the system and still no joy still no heat in the cabin... >:( >:( >:( >:(  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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