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Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« on: 08 March 2010, 16:24:27 »

Sorry if this isn't the correct forum but couldn't find reference to this issue anywhere else here.

Do any of your doors make multiple cracking noises as you open them, and to a lesser degree when you close them? Usually the most used drivers door.
Anyway, if it is, get it sorted ASAP!

I didn't and when I decided to have a go at fixing it I found I was too late and the door check strap has literally torn a chunk out of the inner door where it bolts to it.
No simple repair possible - basically a good door ruined for a relatively simple problem.

There is a simple kit available to prevent the door check strap from tearing a piece out of your mig and the fitting although fiddly is relatively easy. It consists of two reinforcement plates, new bolts and bushes and I recommend you doing this ASAP!

Anyone got a decent 1998 Silver drivers door? :(
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #1 on: 08 March 2010, 16:29:05 »

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Sorry if this isn't the correct forum but couldn't find reference to this issue anywhere else here.

Do any of your doors make multiple cracking noises as you open them, and to a lesser degree when you close them? Usually the most used drivers door.
Anyway, if it is, get it sorted ASAP!

I didn't and when I decided to have a go at fixing it I found I was too late and the door check strap has literally torn a chunk out of the inner door where it bolts to it.
No simple repair possible - basically a good door ruined for a relatively simple problem.

There is a simple kit available to prevent the door check strap from tearing a piece out of your mig and the fitting although fiddly is relatively easy. It consists of two reinforcement plates, new bolts and bushes and I recommend you doing this ASAP!

Anyone got a decent 1998 Silver drivers door? :(


Very well documented here  :y You can do a reasonably effective repair to you existing door using the reiforcing plates .... that's all that hold my door open as the front edge of the door is shot.  ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152902108
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #2 on: 08 March 2010, 16:37:54 »

Ah, thanks for that! Sorry for the double post.

I honestly had a good search - looked for doors cracking, door check strap, door stays and nothing came up...
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #3 on: 08 March 2010, 16:40:05 »

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Ah, thanks for that! Sorry for the double post.

I honestly had a good search - looked for doors cracking, door check strap, door stays and nothing came up...

No worries .... there are lots of double posts.  ;)  ;)  ;) Some of us have wasted more time here than others & so have a rough idea of what's been posted  :y  :y  :y
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« Reply #4 on: 08 March 2010, 16:48:27 »

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Very well documented here  :y You can do a reasonably effective repair to you existing door using the reiforcing plates .... that's all that hold my door open as the front edge of the door is shot.  ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152902108

In reference to you saying a repair is possible, how bad was the tearing on your door? On mine it's literally ripped all the way around the top and right hand side and a bit at the bottom and quite bent and warped with it.
I imagine for the repair to work the plates need to sandwich the strap between some good metal all the way around?
Any info much appreciated.
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #5 on: 08 March 2010, 20:14:58 »

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Very well documented here  :y You can do a reasonably effective repair to you existing door using the reiforcing plates .... that's all that hold my door open as the front edge of the door is shot.  ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152902108

In reference to you saying a repair is possible, how bad was the tearing on your door? On mine it's literally ripped all the way around the top and right hand side and a bit at the bottom and quite bent and warped with it.
I imagine for the repair to work the plates need to sandwich the strap between some good metal all the way around?
Any info much appreciated.


Hi, it is possible to repair baddly damaged doors. You just need a big enough plate inside and out to do it. I made my own as I didn't know you could buy them at the time but I made them just big enough to fit into the gaps to give as much support as possible.
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #6 on: 08 March 2010, 20:32:01 »

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Very well documented here  :y You can do a reasonably effective repair to you existing door using the reiforcing plates .... that's all that hold my door open as the front edge of the door is shot.  ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152902108

In reference to you saying a repair is possible, how bad was the tearing on your door? On mine it's literally ripped all the way around the top and right hand side and a bit at the bottom and quite bent and warped with it.
I imagine for the repair to work the plates need to sandwich the strap between some good metal all the way around?
Any info much appreciated.

The area where the strap should bolt to the leading edge of the door had torn out completely on my drivers' door. Passenger side door was ripped/cracked but the steel hadn't been ripped out completely and was still in place.  :y
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #7 on: 08 March 2010, 20:32:49 »

Cheers Al, I wouldn't know where to start, making bits and all that! :)

I think I've got lucky anyway as a matching door with correct paint code is available nearby with all except door card and mirror (which I have) for £50 and in fair condition. So a door swap it's going to be!
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« Reply #8 on: 08 March 2010, 20:34:15 »

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Cheers Al, I wouldn't know where to start, making bits and all that! :)

I think I've got lucky anyway as a matching door with correct paint code is available nearby with all except door card and mirror (which I have) for £50 and in fair condition. So a door swap it's going to be!

Put the reinforcing plates on before you fit the door. I don't think you need to replace yours though really.
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #9 on: 08 March 2010, 20:43:04 »

Blimey - what about a slight creak ?  :(

i will not get much sleep tonight worrying about my door, just got over worrying about my cam belt ...  ::)


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« Reply #10 on: 08 March 2010, 22:51:39 »

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Blimey - what about a slight creak ?  :(

i will not get much sleep tonight worrying about my door, just got over worrying about my cam belt ...  ::)


 

parts are less than a quid in Vx dealers so worth doing anyway just to be safe

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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #11 on: 08 March 2010, 23:00:15 »

Start with the cheapest. Replace the plastic bush.  Can't remember how much exactly, but under £1 inc vat from Main Stealers.
Took a couple of minutes to do the job and the door is now perfect.
Up until then I had two almighty cracking sounds as I opened the door. Fixed in an instant.
Main Stealer tried selling me over £30 worth (ex.vat) of VX kit, as it was the "only" way to do it properly.
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« Reply #12 on: 08 March 2010, 23:12:20 »

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Put the reinforcing plates on before you fit the door. I don't think you need to replace yours though really.

Absolutely fitting the plates first, bit of an awkward operation when the door is on, especially once you match the strap to the A post which leaves you less space to work in!
It may seem very extravagant getting a whole door instead of attempting a fix but I really don't have much faith in my skills for the fix.

Which incidentally became more apparent when I struggled to remove the now unbolted strap from the current door to prevent further damage, especially to the A post. How on earth do you get the strap back in? It was tricky enough getting it out (via the speaker hole) - so a new door where I can work on it at whatever angle. I think this is the best approach in this case.

@Mudflap - maybe get some grease in over the strap mechanism as well as new bushes.
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #13 on: 08 March 2010, 23:15:47 »

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Replace the plastic bush. Took a couple of minutes to do the job and the door is now perfect.
Up until then I had two almighty cracking sounds as I opened the door. Fixed in an instant.

Turk, would you say failure of the bushes is the catalyst for this problem. Putting too much strain on the door strap mounts because it's no longer rotating freely or smoothly?
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Re: Cracking noise when opening doors - CAUTION!
« Reply #14 on: 08 March 2010, 23:27:21 »

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Put the reinforcing plates on before you fit the door. I don't think you need to replace yours though really.

Absolutely fitting the plates first, bit of an awkward operation when the door is on, especially once you match the strap to the A post which leaves you less space to work in!
It may seem very extravagant getting a whole door instead of attempting a fix but I really don't have much faith in my skills for the fix.

Which incidentally became more apparent when I struggled to remove the now unbolted strap from the current door to prevent further damage, especially to the A post. How on earth do you get the strap back in? It was tricky enough getting it out (via the speaker hole) - so a new door where I can work on it at whatever angle. I think this is the best approach in this case.

@Mudflap - maybe get some grease in over the strap mechanism as well as new bushes.

You would fit the reinforcing plates to your 'new' door in exactly the same way as you would to your current door. The check strap just pokes through the hole at the front & then you bolt it in from the out side of the leading face of the door, same way as you unbolted it.  :y
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