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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #15 on: 02 January 2010, 10:24:16 »

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I'll always use locking wheel bolts.  I dont scrimp when it comes to tyres, and whilst the wheels aren't worth a great deal, the tyres are worth more than the car.

Simple solution to this problem is to NOT ALLOW tyre places to get their grubby hand on the Locking wheel bolts.  Just ask them for their torque wrench and remove/replace them yourself.

The amount of times I've bollocked some scrote for smashing the wheelbolts in with an AirGun (not even winding the first couple of threads with the socket).

Consider it a lesson learned, and do the important bit yourself.


drb..... These thieves dont sh1t on their own doorstep.... they move into the nicer areas of town.  Probably because the better areas have better wheels to pilfer.
Even torqued correctly (yes, some tyre places do!), the Vauxhall locking nuts are so poor, they regularly fail.  There must be a better pattern part out there...
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #16 on: 02 January 2010, 10:31:03 »

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I'll always use locking wheel bolts.  I dont scrimp when it comes to tyres, and whilst the wheels aren't worth a great deal, the tyres are worth more than the car.

Simple solution to this problem is to NOT ALLOW tyre places to get their grubby hand on the Locking wheel bolts.  Just ask them for their torque wrench and remove/replace them yourself.

The amount of times I've bollocked some scrote for smashing the wheelbolts in with an AirGun (not even winding the first couple of threads with the socket).

Consider it a lesson learned, and do the important bit yourself.


drb..... These thieves dont sh1t on their own doorstep.... they move into the nicer areas of town.  Probably because the better areas have better wheels to pilfer.
Even torqued correctly (yes, some tyre places do!), the Vauxhall locking nuts are so poor, they regularly fail.  There must be a better pattern part out there...

Last time locking nuts came of mine was at WIM, and they did torque them correctly (no guns used)

That was back in May/June time, so not that long. Going to try a few things to loosen them off.

- Using the old key, bash the hell out of the nut hoping to break / loosen the seal.

- Loosen all other bolts, roll forward, and stamp on the front brakes

- Soak in WD40 for a few days first before trying above
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #17 on: 02 January 2010, 10:36:07 »

Had the challenge of removing a locking bolt with a damaged cake cutter typekey some months ago.  Every time you exerted any pressure to turn the thing slipped out of its keyslot.

I placed the offending wheel a foot or so away from the end of a wall and used a bottle jack onto the tommy bar of the socket set with the locknut to exert big pressure thereby keeping the locknut key firmly in place.

Carefully applied use of a scaffold bar got the nut undone without skipping.  Worth a shot?
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #18 on: 02 January 2010, 10:41:25 »

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I'll always use locking wheel bolts.  I dont scrimp when it comes to tyres, and whilst the wheels aren't worth a great deal, the tyres are worth more than the car.

Simple solution to this problem is to NOT ALLOW tyre places to get their grubby hand on the Locking wheel bolts.  Just ask them for their torque wrench and remove/replace them yourself.

The amount of times I've bollocked some scrote for smashing the wheelbolts in with an AirGun (not even winding the first couple of threads with the socket).

Consider it a lesson learned, and do the important bit yourself.


drb..... These thieves dont sh1t on their own doorstep.... they move into the nicer areas of town.  Probably because the better areas have better wheels to pilfer.
Even torqued correctly (yes, some tyre places do!), the Vauxhall locking nuts are so poor, they regularly fail.  There must be a better pattern part out there...

Last time locking nuts came of mine was at WIM, and they did torque them correctly (no guns used)

That was back in May/June time, so not that long. Going to try a few things to loosen them off.

- Using the old key, bash the hell out of the nut hoping to break / loosen the seal.

- Loosen all other bolts, roll forward, and stamp on the front brakes

- Soak in WD40 for a few days first before trying above
Could try checking your pads a bit more frequently!! ;)
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #19 on: 02 January 2010, 10:43:20 »

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Had the challenge of removing a locking bolt with a damaged cake cutter typekey some months ago.  Every time you exerted any pressure to turn the thing slipped out of its keyslot.

I placed the offending wheel a foot or so away from the end of a wall and used a bottle jack onto the tommy bar of the socket set with the locknut to exert big pressure thereby keeping the locknut key firmly in place.

Carefully applied use of a scaffold bar got the nut undone without skipping.  Worth a shot?


neat idea, but don't have a bottle jack. I've had had locking nuts slip before, but my current one is ripped:



I think even with that kind of pressure it will just rip the rest of the thread off.
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #20 on: 02 January 2010, 10:44:23 »

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I'll always use locking wheel bolts.  I dont scrimp when it comes to tyres, and whilst the wheels aren't worth a great deal, the tyres are worth more than the car.

Simple solution to this problem is to NOT ALLOW tyre places to get their grubby hand on the Locking wheel bolts.  Just ask them for their torque wrench and remove/replace them yourself.

The amount of times I've bollocked some scrote for smashing the wheelbolts in with an AirGun (not even winding the first couple of threads with the socket).

Consider it a lesson learned, and do the important bit yourself.


drb..... These thieves dont sh1t on their own doorstep.... they move into the nicer areas of town.  Probably because the better areas have better wheels to pilfer.
Even torqued correctly (yes, some tyre places do!), the Vauxhall locking nuts are so poor, they regularly fail.  There must be a better pattern part out there...

Last time locking nuts came of mine was at WIM, and they did torque them correctly (no guns used)

That was back in May/June time, so not that long. Going to try a few things to loosen them off.

- Using the old key, bash the hell out of the nut hoping to break / loosen the seal.

- Loosen all other bolts, roll forward, and stamp on the front brakes

- Soak in WD40 for a few days first before trying above
Could try checking your pads a bit more frequently!! ;)

I'm lazy  :P
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #21 on: 02 January 2010, 10:45:10 »

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neat idea, but don't have a bottle jack. I've had had locking nuts slip before, but my current one is ripped:



I think even with that kind of pressure it will just rip the rest of the thread off.

Desperate times call for desperate measures......  It wolnt make it any worse and might - just might - save the effort of having to chisel it off....
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #22 on: 02 January 2010, 10:49:36 »

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neat idea, but don't have a bottle jack. I've had had locking nuts slip before, but my current one is ripped:



I think even with that kind of pressure it will just rip the rest of the thread off.

Desperate times call for desperate measures......  It wolnt make it any worse and might - just might - save the effort of having to chisel it off....

Can't think of anything i can use to replace the bottle jack, got some G-Clamps but they are not big enough  :-/
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #23 on: 02 January 2010, 10:51:11 »

scissor jack?

block of wood and a scaffold pole?

improvisation is the mother of invention!   ;D
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #24 on: 02 January 2010, 10:52:10 »

wooden block and a couple of 30* cut wedges to get the tension in?
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« Reply #25 on: 02 January 2010, 10:56:24 »

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scissor jack?

block of wood and a scaffold pole?

improvisation is the mother of invention!   ;D

I'll see what i can do  ;D
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #26 on: 23 April 2010, 23:13:04 »

What a coincidence ... I have the identical keyboard to the one in the picture and my locking nut key looks just like yours too!
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #27 on: 02 May 2010, 11:48:35 »

Came across a set of these (4 piece set) at a boot sale, didnt buy as were well used. But looks like it would do the job of getting a locking nut off.

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/locking-wheel-nut-remover-2pc

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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #28 on: 02 May 2010, 12:05:06 »

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Had the challenge of removing a locking bolt with a damaged cake cutter typekey some months ago.  Every time you exerted any pressure to turn the thing slipped out of its keyslot.

I placed the offending wheel a foot or so away from the end of a wall and used a bottle jack onto the tommy bar of the socket set with the locknut to exert big pressure thereby keeping the locknut key firmly in place.

Carefully applied use of a scaffold bar got the nut undone without skipping.  Worth a shot?


neat idea, but don't have a bottle jack. I've had had locking nuts slip before, but my current one is ripped:



I think even with that kind of pressure it will just rip the rest of the thread off.

Plomien's were like this when we recently attempted to change his discs/pads ........
 >:(

As I was somewhat 'incapacitated' at the time, we were pointed in the direction of a 'local geezer' tyre specialist who promptly 're-engineered' a wheel-nut spider with a lump-hammer!
 :D :D ;D ;D

A few minutes and a 'drink' later, it was 'job done, boys' and we were on our way.
Offending bolts were then replaced with standard jobbies from Sethsmate's 'store' - Plomien's now a happy chappie!
 :y

 
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Re: locking wheel nuts!!!!
« Reply #29 on: 02 May 2010, 12:14:05 »

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Had the challenge of removing a locking bolt with a damaged cake cutter typekey some months ago.  Every time you exerted any pressure to turn the thing slipped out of its keyslot.

I placed the offending wheel a foot or so away from the end of a wall and used a bottle jack onto the tommy bar of the socket set with the locknut to exert big pressure thereby keeping the locknut key firmly in place.

Carefully applied use of a scaffold bar got the nut undone without skipping.  Worth a shot?


neat idea, but don't have a bottle jack. I've had had locking nuts slip before, but my current one is ripped:



I think even with that kind of pressure it will just rip the rest of the thread off.

Plomien's were like this when we recently attempted to change his discs/pads ........
 >:(

As I was somewhat 'incapacitated' at the time, we were pointed in the direction of a 'local geezer' tyre specialist who promptly 're-engineered' a wheel-nut spider with a lump-hammer!
 :D :D ;D ;D

A few minutes and a 'drink' later, it was 'job done, boys' and we were on our way.
Offending bolts were then replaced with standard jobbies from Sethsmate's 'store' - Plomien's now a happy chappie!
 :y

 

They really are shite, nuts themselves are ok ish, its the keys are too soft  >:(
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