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Liam

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DOH! another head swap setback
« on: 21 August 2010, 20:43:30 »

Sigh. Finally get some dry weather to continue my head swap after The Incident so on goes the breather box and the head. Doing up the bolts I find a couple of them feel much tighter than the others. Dawns on me that in my noobness I never checked the bolt holes for oil/water so I'm worried I'm going to hydraulic the block. Bottle it and take the head off again :(. Good job I have a spare set of bolts as I had to buy a whole set of 16.

Funny thing is the tightest bolt came out completely dry so I dont think the hole could have been full of fluid? Any ideas? Ah well I'll clean out all the holes and have another go tomorrow. The main question is, had I better get a new gasket too as I've crushed this first one, albeit only for 10 minutes or so? Some of the red line of seal on the gasket seems to have been disturbed/damaged.
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Re: DOH! another head swap setback
« Reply #1 on: 21 August 2010, 22:31:14 »

Screw one of the bolts into each bolt hole (by hand) to reassure yourself that there is nothing to stop the bolts going all the way before you put the head back on.

If there are any tight ones then take one of the old bolts, cut a slot in the threads using a hacksaw and use it to clean out the bolt holes.
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Re: DOH! another head swap setback
« Reply #2 on: 22 August 2010, 12:31:01 »

Cheers - good advice. Any idea if the gasket will be OK for another go, or is it scrap?
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Re: DOH! another head swap setback
« Reply #3 on: 22 August 2010, 15:51:48 »

Whilst it's not specific on the omega, I've use the rule before that if the engine has not been run on a head-gasket, then it's likely to be fine.  I've even done the same before, in that I've torqued up a head, and then realised I've made a mistake and had to take it off again.  Not run the engine in the meantime, so re-used the gasket, and it was fine for many thousands of miles thereafter.

The trick about using an old head-bolt is a good one, although what I've tended to do is grind a massive flat on one side of the bolt, and the same on the opposite side of the bolt, meaning you end up with a 4mm thick flat bolt which acts as a thread-chaser.  Thereafter, a vacuum cleaner with a length of small-bore tubing gaffer-taped to the end of it is great for getting corrosion/dust/water/oil out of the threads in the block.

Again, I'm not entirely sure with regard to the omega engine, but engines I've worked on before respond well to having a swipe of lithuim grease on the head bolt threads, and another swipe under the head of the bolt, allowing you to get a reasonably reliable torque reading which is less caused by friction and more by actual bolt loading.
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Re: DOH! another head swap setback
« Reply #4 on: 22 August 2010, 22:40:02 »

I always run either an old tap down each block thread or a "thread-saver"

...... and lubricate the threads with ATF, the "extreme-pressure" lubricant does the trick.
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