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Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« on: 27 July 2010, 16:08:58 »

On start up she runs lumpy as hell. by the time I get to the bottom of my road all is well again. No issues on start up if it's not been left very long. 9 hours at work and same lumpy running on start up, then clears again. No great plumes of white smoke either!

I've read that it could be water getting into the bores. Is this correct. She's a great car, but if it's gonna start costing mega bucks, she's gonna have to get broken i'm afraid.

Cheers in advance.

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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #1 on: 27 July 2010, 16:34:33 »

Are you losing any coolant?
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #2 on: 27 July 2010, 16:35:10 »

if it is the head gasket its going to cost at a garage in the region of £1200. i ended up scrapping the car. sounds about the same symptoms as mine.. do you get any smells in the cab?? like an oil and water mix? ....or it could be simply blocked breathers
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #3 on: 27 July 2010, 16:40:32 »

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if it is the head gasket its going to cost at a garage in the region of £1200. i ended up scrapping the car. sounds about the same symptoms as mine.. do you get any smells in the cab?? like an oil and water mix? ....or it could be simply blocked breathers
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Shouldn't be any more than about £400
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #4 on: 27 July 2010, 16:42:05 »

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Are you losing any coolant?

Yeah, but no great plumes of white smoke.

No smells in the cab either, other than my feet  ;D

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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #5 on: 27 July 2010, 16:57:55 »

Any mayo under the oil filler cap or on the dipstick.
I'm just in the process of replacing my head gasket after having the head welded and skimmed.
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #6 on: 27 July 2010, 17:07:39 »

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if it is the head gasket its going to cost at a garage in the region of £1200. i ended up scrapping the car. sounds about the same symptoms as mine.. do you get any smells in the cab?? like an oil and water mix? ....or it could be simply blocked breathers
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Shouldn't be any more than about £400

It cost the previous owner of my car similar money to have them done when the car was a little over a year old!  :o
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« Reply #7 on: 27 July 2010, 17:11:43 »

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if it is the head gasket its going to cost at a garage in the region of £1200. i ended up scrapping the car. sounds about the same symptoms as mine.. do you get any smells in the cab?? like an oil and water mix? ....or it could be simply blocked breathers
:o

Shouldn't be any more than about £400

It cost the previous owner of my car similar money to have them done when the car was a little over a year old:o

No warranty cover? :o :o
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #8 on: 27 July 2010, 17:18:15 »

First things first!
1. Are you losing coolant from the expansion bottle?
2. Can you find the source of the leak in the engine bay?
3. Is there a smell of petrol or exhaust gas in the coolant bottle?
4. Is the cooling system pressurising, can you see air bubbles entering the expansion bottle from the small diameter hoses?
5. Is there any oil in the coolant or coolant (mayonnaise) in the oil?
6. Leave the car to cool down overnight & then remove the plugs one by one & shine a bright torch into the plug hole, can you see any liquid in the bores? or firmly tape a cotton bud to long pencil or similar and carefully lower into the bore until it touches the piston head and check if it is wet when removed.

Note: Even if the head gasket has gone, it is not a difficult job to do it yourself with some basic tools and a common sense approach to the job, you do not have to be a mechanic to fix a 2.2 head gasket & it will cost in the region of £150 ota in parts plus approx. another £30 - £40 to get the head skimmed if that is necessary. Plus you will get all the help you need on here for free too!  :y
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #9 on: 27 July 2010, 17:23:48 »

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if it is the head gasket its going to cost at a garage in the region of £1200. i ended up scrapping the car. sounds about the same symptoms as mine.. do you get any smells in the cab?? like an oil and water mix? ....or it could be simply blocked breathers
:o

Shouldn't be any more than about £400

It cost the previous owner of my car similar money to have them done when the car was a little over a year old:o

No warranty cover? :o :o

maybe I'm wrong then ....  :-/ I know it wasn't very old at the time though
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #10 on: 27 July 2010, 17:24:26 »

must have been a Vauxhall  ::)
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« Reply #11 on: 27 July 2010, 17:26:03 »

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must have been a Vauxhall  ::)


 :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?
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« Reply #12 on: 27 July 2010, 17:28:49 »

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must have been Vauxhall  ::)


 :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?

A was typo, meant so say it was Vauxhall at that price
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #13 on: 27 July 2010, 17:34:56 »

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must have been Vauxhall  ::)


 :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?

A was typo, meant so say it was Vauxhall at that price

Certainly was.  ;)
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Re: Suspect it's the head gasket, but .......
« Reply #14 on: 27 July 2010, 17:48:49 »

I would say 4 hours and about 100 quids worth of bits.

You may wish to add in a cambelt kit and water pump if its due soon and if its mega bad a head skim (about 20-30 quid extra)

SO...even at Vx proices, 600 quid.

1200 quid must have included a replacement head
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