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[b19sin]

hi

recently my car broke down and had no idea why it just stop. everytime i tried to turn the key the car work try to kick over but wouldn't actually spark so in the end i had to call out the AA. in light of that they told me that it was my timing belt had slipped. so went and got a new one and have fitted the new one and do not know if i have got the timing right any ideas.

thanks

[Welung666]

Is it the 16valve engine? If it is then stands a good chance you have bent some valves! Where are you located as someone local may offer to come have a look.

[tunnie]

hi

recently my car broke down and had no idea why it just stop. everytime i tried to turn the key the car work try to kick over but wouldn't actually spark so in the end i had to call out the AA. in light of that they told me that it was my timing belt had slipped. so went and got a new one and have fitted the new one and do not know if i have got the timing right any ideas.

thanks

Could also be crank sensor, what 'diagnosis' did the AA do??

[b19sin]

The AA said that the timing belt was lose and may have slipped a tooth. I brought a new belt and set the timinig to what i think is right i have managed to turn the engine with a spanner with no problem. but still wont start. there is fuel in the rail and plugs are sparking but all it seems to do is back fire in the air filter box.

thanks si

[PhilRich]

Also, you say you have changed the belt, but have you checked and/or replaced the belt tensioner & roller if necessary? The original belt must have had a reason for jumping a tooth/teeth, & I don't think 'stretching' would be the culprit? :-/ Anyway, HTH 

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[tidla]

Is it the 16valve engine? If it is then stands a good chance you have bent some valves! Where are you located as someone local may offer to come have a look.

back to basics.

did you know where the correct timing marks are?

did they line up the timing marks on the old belt before you removed it?

did the belt ollk loose?

aa dont always get it right.

[b19sin]

the cam on the passenger side has two markings i have tried both but i get the same outcome. i think it is the water pump bering that has caused it as it has a tiny bit of play in it, i will change it as soon as i know there is no perminent damage done ie valves bent.
 i will have to get a manual as i dont know what else to try.

when i turn it over with the key it sounds as though it not firing but i know it is.

[PhilRich]

the cam on the passenger side has two markings i have tried both but i get the same outcome. i think it is the water pump bering that has caused it as it has a tiny bit of play in it, i will change it as soon as i know there is no perminent damage done ie valves bent.
i will have to get a manual as i dont know what else to try.

when i turn it over with the key it sounds as though it not firing but i know it is.

Have a look at my post above for the link to the manual (I forgot to paste it in  sorry )

[b19sin]

thanks for that, it a real help.

[Elite Pete]

Is the engine turning over faster than it used to?

[b19sin]

no if anything it is slower.

[Gaffers]

where are you located?

[b19sin]

im in wolverhampton.

[bluey]

Sounds like a cam/crank sensor issue than a timing one to me.  I would have thought the AA would have identified this from plugging in their diagnostics pack though - did the chappy plug his laptop in to check things over or just hook you up to the back of his Transit and take you home?

[b19sin]

 i waited 2 hours for him to come so was more than happy for him to connect me to the back of his van and bring me home. lol but no there was no laptop involved. he scratched his  head and said that it did not sound right,

i have got a new crank sensor to try after work tomorrow as its too dark tonight.